to goes to MAK

[mak]

Originally Posted by rescu

Dont get offended i just want to understand what your point your view of all the problem we are having with vendors and what your solution.

Open your own shop and sell only valid cards there without duplicates if you think that it's possible to do.

Btw I can't write here any service from last 10 years who hadn't negative feedbacks.

[rescu]

I want to understand if this forum is User-friendly or Vendors-friendly cause when Yale ripped Vendors thats when you start taking action, but he was ripping way before to the USers uploaded bases 2 or 3 times and reselling the same cc again and when there was a complaint you only responde read shop Rule.



You must have vendors that can treat your members Great or it will just be a Shame and the forum is going to become same as other forum, that admin dont respect the user, you closed my theard of ULtimate and didnt investigate what i had to say, after buying from refund base that clearly says if you want a refund buy from refund base, and if he is the one selling bad card ofcourse my refund rate is going to burst throw the roof, he was good 3-4 years ago, i was a member from this shop and spent over 15k in that shop never complain now i am complaining and i dont get the support i deserve, or believe i deserve.



Patrick also did the same thing never refunded bad card and i deposit 80$



we understand ripping rules, and abuse buyer that buys and refund, but what happen when its their fault do they get punish? no, so y not create a website and start selling good cc for 1 month then fuck up everyone selling generated cc,



Vendors lately are selling trash and you know, because there was no insult to Joker, unicc fe-shop, top 3 shop gone now there alot of insult so where is our position of not being rip from this scam.



Vclub is getting alot of bad review from vendors and buyer and have you warned him about that action.



this is just so complicated and i just want the forum to be comfortable for OLD AND NEW users and can buy what the forum offer because they went under a verification process before having thier Vendor Status



Dont get offended i just want to understand what your point your view of all the problem we are having with vendors and what your solution.

[bigfatmo]

I second you on that. MAK closed my blacklist which was clear. VCLUB ROBBED ME CLEAN! HE even boosted when i open the blacklist that i was wasting my time. In other words The Admin are his MATES they will close it without any action. I was a bit disappointed but i understand i dont pay ADs money and MAK doesnt seems FAIR this days. The same base everyone else complaint about but they get refund. Only me bought 3 dead cards before and 3 from the dead base and NEVER GET REFUNDED.



I HAVE BEEN A REGULAR AND FULL TIME CARDER FOR 14 YEARS STRAIGHT YEARS! I KNOW MY GAME but what is happening this days with stores looking to RIP buyers off as fast as they can is appalling. Before FE Store and Unicc went away i never had need to join any forum because i know there are seasons with stores (Good days and Bad Days) but NVER has it been straight forward daylight rip off as we are seeing now! Especially with VClub that has numerous method he use to cheat Buyers. Forum was suppose to control some of this BAD attitude but sadly they even enable them while few low cheats get Banned. Lot can be done but seems nothing will be done. VCLUB is always feeling he is above all but just matter of time.

[rescu]

Originally Posted by mak

Open your own shop and sell only valid cards there without duplicates if you think that it's possible to do.

Btw I can't write here any service from last 10 years who hadn't negative feedbacks.

i dont think its possible but at lease shop owners knows the validty of each base they upload, its not just take 10 cc and check them and all 10 valid and upload a 100% base with no refund and having 100 ticket of different users complain about the base and still Neglect refund and keep selling the base. why cant you admit scam and have the seller Refund the money to the user, or have a deposit on forum so f this happen you personally from the deposit that shop owner deposit to the forum you can refund and then banned them for not having good resources and not resolving matter with user.



Somtimes shop are banning user for just $100 refund when they have speeded alot more.



FOr you VCLUB you where good when you came out but became ignorant and less suportive with people i stop working with you after i lost 300$ and no refund you didnt respect my 5month adding balance and spending. you use to refund GOLDEN BASE and you stop refunding it when you knew base was fully dead.



So i just want an explanation, where do you get NOREFUND FOR DEAD CARDS AND STILL MAKE A PROFIT at any shop online, everyone got to eat but give people a chance to get back their money at lease

[vclub]

In everything there are unhappy customers and sellers, there is nothing where everything is perfect except perhaps in paradise with God

[mak]

rescu, if you not happy with this shop why do you still buy cards from him? Change shop may be?

[nikkki]

почитал пенчика и увидел одну светлую мысль. почему нельзя сделать так, чтобы коммерс ветки заливали депозит? я хз как администрация относится к скамеркам. но у меня, на них прям аллергия, изжога и все , что может быть еще. прям припадки начинаются, когда вижу петушарускамерка. меня в детстве учили, не работать по СНГ. и не важно, скамнул кого-то на мат, залив, или , что-то другое. это табу.