NFC pay apps aka "tap and pay"

[johnsgus87]

Originally Posted by satnam

You have to understand it is a public forum feds watching every thread. There is limitations what can be shared.
I agree with u what sharing is great and in real world I all up for it... I been open-source believer and still are for 20 years or so. . But u have to understand what we do is illegal and eventually the stuff gonna get abused and burned. . And become useless. And by sharing to bunch a idiots it's gonna burned it faster.... in real world before doing bank robbery you don't share details with everyone don't u?
And this is nothing free it's a lot work and risk and dedication. To be great carder/hacker takes a lot of work. It's defennitely not free. .. people risk years in prison to make this happen.
And best stuff never even talked here. . . Because people like u except everything free and on the plate... after us tested and perfected and again every test chance to go to prison... So don't school us fella u should be greatful u get anything.... we all started like that if u can't grind it through that means is not for u. Get 8 to 5 job.

you're right. it is a lot of feds everywhere, n its natural not to want to give up something you worked hard on. but the problem is that eventually there has to be some form of sharing n negotiating. thats what one of my threads was about. i just dont understand why even have a forum. at the end of the day, business is business, but there's 2 sides to that. the old forums (like lampeduza) actually used to be helpful. the more experienced guys used to guide others to the right path. n no not for free, but thats only right. if i work to find something, you have to pay me for my work. the problem is that guys arent making the $ they used to. shits harder on ALL fronts now adays, n so everybody is holding on to every lil bit they got. n thats whats killing the carding game. no guidance, feds, n rippers are causing the inexperience guys to go out n try shit on their own, the wrong way. which leads to shit going bad, feds, etc. ive been doing this for a while n i know the game well. ive made a lot n lost a lot, but such is this game we play. that doesnt stop me from networking cuz i know that there's always somebody out there whose gonna be able to help me get even more. just gotta figure out a way to weed out the bs n get back making big $