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Old 05-08-2025, 04:16 AM

liudvik liudvik is offline
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Я конечно не перестаю удивляться наглости крыс, которые пытаются отстоять своё право на скам моих клиентов.
Да еще и сами экономят мне время и выкладывают результаты чеков, которые я предоставил непосредственно в тикетах, только обрезают свои тупые вопросы "что значит карты украдены?"
Да то и значит. Большая половина базы из непроданных карт, после старта начала продаж чудесным образом стала проседать по валиду до %40, а при рандомном чеке, выясняется, что большая часть из непроданных карт уже в Hold-Call, Pick-Up, Lost-Stolen а значит эти карты уже от-юзали в других местах, другие люди, потому что база продавалась в нескольких шопах, группах, итд.
Теперь запоминайте вы оба, хотя я уверен, что ты один и тот же человек, который регнул два аккаунта. Я никому не позволю зарабатывать деньги на репутации моего шопа с юзаных баз. 10 дней до первой выплаты появились не случайно, а как раз для того, чтобы оградить шоп именно от таких обмороков как ты, которые сразу же несут базу в разные места.
Если ты думаешь, что можешь тулить моим клиентам Hold-Call, Suspected Fraud, Lost-Stolen, Pick-up карты не подлежащие замене, заранее зная, что клиент не сможет вернуть за них деньги и потом требовать с меня баланс, который образовался ТОЛЬКО потому что мои клиенты доверяют репутации моего шопа, то ты парень не угадал. Этим занимаются только крысы. Кем вы оба / ты один и являешься. Крысой, которая решила, что может принести базу, продавать её в два и более конца и потом качать за выплату на форумах.
Просьба к администрации забанить обоих обмороков за откровенное крысятничество и продажи фуфлыжных Hold-Call, Suspected Fraud, Pick-up, Lost-Stolen баз.
Повторю здесь результаты рандомных чеков непроданных карт, доказывающих, что их уже использовали.
Item Auth Code Auth Message CVV2 Amount
4246315285803647 59 Suspected Fraud 146 (CVV Match) 2.91
4001770013855803 41 Hold-call 271 (CVV Match) 6.75
4482130131156279 46 Closed Account 446 (CVV Match) 9.77
4246315280643030 59 Suspected Fraud 238 (CVV Match) 3.13
5361489002544499 62 Decline 476 (Not processed) 3.74
4147400301100721 59 Suspected Fraud 534 (CVV Match) 9.58
4334777367517085 15 No Such Issuer 123 () 5.87
4270829075543980 59 Suspected Fraud 279 (CVV Match) 1.29
4482130016492617 46 Closed Account 540 (CVV Match) 3.12
4147400298652262 59 Suspected Fraud 066 (CVV Match) 4.76
5452128032552805 63 Sec Violation 600 (CVV Match) 8.15
4921828656576453 59 Suspected Fraud 721 (CVV Match) 8.92
4659446598878396 19 Re Enter 227 (CVV Match) 8.75
5434709001094151 63 Sec Violation 659 (CVV Match) 9.20
5573615045453298 51 Decline 828 (CVV Match) 2.44
4462911413522245 59 Suspected Fraud 647 (CVV Match) 7.26
4978740372744723 00 Approval 520 (CVV Match) 1.56
4921816601401752 59 Suspected Fraud 760 (CVV Match) 9.11
4165987046187150 51 Decline 421 (CVV Match) 6.50
4344994575025581 59 Suspected Fraud 402 (CVV Match) 1.30
4216040011017223 51 Decline 300 (CVV Match) 7.63
4751310113002410 59 Suspected Fraud 641 (CVV Match) 5.88
5573615027670729 51 Decline 089 (CVV Match) 8.43
5240146800290280 00 Approval 479 (CVV Match) 8.60
4921817497348263 41 Hold-call 644 (CVV Match) 2.78
4921828436386215 43 Hold-call 743 (CVV Match) 6.49
5188310030514661 62 Decline 357 (CVV Match) 8.26
5573525355727563 57 Serv Not Allowed 811 (Not processed) 7.18
4216040014001794 51 Decline 080 (CVV Match) 2.72
4342562346276957 =2402 00 Approval CVV Match 3.70
4366182847177884 =2512 59 Suspected Fraud CVV Match 8.62
5480146919759323 =2604 41 Hold-call CVV Match 6.90
4347697083512506 =2511 00 Approval CVV Match 4.94
4815820342539416 =2703 51 Decline CVV Match 4.91
5102778097450776 =2509 43 Hold-call Not processed 1.16
4403934483221615 =2701 51 Decline CVV Match 6.76
4342562432879854 =2602 00 Approval CVV Match 2.71
376779983901005 =2608 00 Approval CVV Match 6.75
4342562439927052 =2603 46 Closed Account CVV Match 1.87
4403931996912714 =2512 51 Decline CVV Match 4.25
4342562858953522 =2603 46 Closed Account CVV Match 7.43
4347697086675425 =2604 46 Closed Account CVV Match 8.86
4867966911125280 =2703 00 Approval CVV Match 5.64
У его аккаунта клона kosomsaber22 точно такая же картина. Прошу рассматривать оба блека как один.
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Old 05-08-2025, 04:17 AM

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the ccs uploaded by me and my partner on each account are totally different ccs, not even 1 duplicated. not 1 uploaded in any other shop. the ccs numbers you have supplied has been already sold 90% but you still recheck them again so basically you're re-checking the same cards that you sold. not the unsold. if the validity rate was 40% as you said. the base wouldn't have sold 90% since nobody will want to repeat buying if the base cards were bad.
i asked for proofs to support your claims cause your previous proofs of ur checker results are merely for the show. if my bases had complains customers would have been reporting already. but that didn't happen. you let me upload 4 bases through 10 days and all was selling much.
i showed in the screenshots that i uploaded bases in different days and most of the bases were sold.
you talk big mouth about trust to your customers this and that. im sure you didn't credit the 7000$ u stole from me back to the people who bought. since even when the refund was enabled the refund was too low.
your 10 day rule is a tool for you to ripp off your sellers. which i lately came to realize you are famous for.
you are the only one who should be blacklisted here cause you're a shame to all the industry. first shop i get scammed in as a seller. im sure soon you will be exposed cause you're scamming too many people
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Old 05-08-2025, 04:18 AM

liudvik liudvik is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saber22
i asked for proofs to support your claims cause your previous proofs of ur checker results are merely for the show.
Ты конченный дурачок, который очевидно не понимает как работают магазины и как покупатели делают в них покупки.
Ты думаешь в моем шопе продавалась только твоя база? Разумеется, если один покупатель купил карт Hold-Call, он не будет выбирать карты из этой базы повторно, но у меня тысячи покупателей и они доверяя моей репутации будут покупать в этой базе не зная, что ты уже пустил её по кругу. Не все покупатели создают тикеты с жалобами. Не все покупатели сразу используют купленные карты, они могут выкупить нужный им бин и использовать карту через 2-3 дня. Так что не говори мне о том, что я не получал жалобы на твои крысиные базы.
Ни ты ни твой воображаемый партнер так и не объяснили почему повторный чек непроданных карт такой низкий.
В моем шопе сотни продавцов, и все они работают честно, и ни у кого из них за 5-7 дней после начала продажи в базах не падает валид ниже 30%. Но такие крысы как ты, и продавец с именем a5630305841 жадные придурки которые выкладывают свой проёб на всеобщее обозрении.
Мне все равно в каких шопах ты продавал раньше, возможно из владельцы закрывают глаза на обман своих покупателя. Я буду со всей пролетарской ненавистью банить таких крыс как ты.
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For the show huh?
Item Auth Code Auth Message CVV2 Amount
4246315285803647 59 Suspected Fraud 146 (CVV Match) 2.91
4001770013855803 41 Hold-call 271 (CVV Match) 6.75
4482130131156279 46 Closed Account 446 (CVV Match) 9.77
4246315280643030 59 Suspected Fraud 238 (CVV Match) 3.13
5361489002544499 62 Decline 476 (Not processed) 3.74
4147400301100721 59 Suspected Fraud 534 (CVV Match) 9.58
4334777367517085 15 No Such Issuer 123 () 5.87
4270829075543980 59 Suspected Fraud 279 (CVV Match) 1.29
4482130016492617 46 Closed Account 540 (CVV Match) 3.12
4147400298652262 59 Suspected Fraud 066 (CVV Match) 4.76
5452128032552805 63 Sec Violation 600 (CVV Match) 8.15
4921828656576453 59 Suspected Fraud 721 (CVV Match) 8.92
4659446598878396 19 Re Enter 227 (CVV Match) 8.75
5434709001094151 63 Sec Violation 659 (CVV Match) 9.20
5573615045453298 51 Decline 828 (CVV Match) 2.44
4462911413522245 59 Suspected Fraud 647 (CVV Match) 7.26
4978740372744723 00 Approval 520 (CVV Match) 1.56
4921816601401752 59 Suspected Fraud 760 (CVV Match) 9.11
4165987046187150 51 Decline 421 (CVV Match) 6.50
4344994575025581 59 Suspected Fraud 402 (CVV Match) 1.30
4216040011017223 51 Decline 300 (CVV Match) 7.63
4751310113002410 59 Suspected Fraud 641 (CVV Match) 5.88
5573615027670729 51 Decline 089 (CVV Match) 8.43
5240146800290280 00 Approval 479 (CVV Match) 8.60
4921817497348263 41 Hold-call 644 (CVV Match) 2.78
4921828436386215 43 Hold-call 743 (CVV Match) 6.49
5188310030514661 62 Decline 357 (CVV Match) 8.26
5573525355727563 57 Serv Not Allowed 811 (Not processed) 7.18
4216040014001794 51 Decline 080 (CVV Match) 2.72
4342562346276957 =2402 00 Approval CVV Match 3.70
4366182847177884 =2512 59 Suspected Fraud CVV Match 8.62
5480146919759323 =2604 41 Hold-call CVV Match 6.90
4347697083512506 =2511 00 Approval CVV Match 4.94
4815820342539416 =2703 51 Decline CVV Match 4.91
5102778097450776 =2509 43 Hold-call Not processed 1.16
4403934483221615 =2701 51 Decline CVV Match 6.76
4342562432879854 =2602 00 Approval CVV Match 2.71
376779983901005 =2608 00 Approval CVV Match 6.75
4342562439927052 =2603 46 Closed Account CVV Match 1.87
4403931996912714 =2512 51 Decline CVV Match 4.25
4342562858953522 =2603 46 Closed Account CVV Match 7.43
4347697086675425 =2604 46 Closed Account CVV Match 8.86
4867966911125280 =2703 00 Approval CVV Match 5.64
Should I remind everyone here, these are UNSOLD cards. Understand? These were never released for sale.
So go ahead and tell me these check results are for the show here.
You decided to scam my customers tossing me trash databases that were sold in some place else - you lose ANY payoff. It's been clearly mentioned when you requested to become a vendor. So quit fucking around and give me a clear explanation why and how you're valid rate drops from %75 to %20 in a single day and most cards are reported lost, stolen, pick ups and hold-call?
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Old 05-08-2025, 04:18 AM

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1.as per what you say "if one buyer bought Hold-Call cards, he will not choose cards from this database again". when buying a cc from your shop it shows the 'base name' so if my base was trash like you said it wouldn't have sold 256card and leave 26 card unsold. that's almost more than 90% sales.
2. for what i know is that any normal customer would create a complaint if bought 2-3 ccs and they weren't working. as you say such complains or returns happen within 2-3 days. why did you keep me for more than 10 days and you would accept my uploads every 2-3 days you accepted 4 uploads on total through 11 days. why did you only decide i was bad when i asked you for my payout?
3.there are many respectable shops that suffer from a bad seller reselling ccs somewhere else. not my case. for those cases you'd find some person taking a screenshot from 1 shop for the same exact cc uploaded somewhere else. which 2 weeks after the upload you can't prove.
4.you vanished my account and disabled all access to tickets or sales stats so you hide proofs. if you had any proofs about complaints or anything but your responses from checker that can be very easily edited.
my uploads sold 87 90% of cards. 30 card left unsold. what is there to check?
5.you took 2-3 days (random time) to approve each upload. how possibly could i manipulate or cheat your smart checking system? show us proof of the money returns to your customers. show us proofs that my stuff were listed elsewhere. all you do is trash talk me and repeat same scripts but never show actual proofs support your claims
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Old 05-08-2025, 04:19 AM

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Most of the databases released for sale in my shop are sold extremely fast. I'm the top shop on the market.
What are you trying to prove here? The fact most of my released databases are being sold very fast? That's a fact. Anything I upload is being sold extremely fast. And you know that. That's the reason you came to my shop to sell It.
What in the world are we discussing here? Your right to scam my customers? All I'm reading here is deviations and attempts to avoid major valid rate drop and 80% of the cards suddenly being reported lost and stolen, hold-call and pick up, etc.
Answer everyone here. Why MOST of your cards, that are UNSOLD in my shop are suddenly being reported lost, stolen, pick ups and hold-call.
Item Auth Code Auth Message CVV2 Amount
4246315285803647 59 Suspected Fraud 146 (CVV Match) 2.91
4001770013855803 41 Hold-call 271 (CVV Match) 6.75
4482130131156279 46 Closed Account 446 (CVV Match) 9.77
4246315280643030 59 Suspected Fraud 238 (CVV Match) 3.13
5361489002544499 62 Decline 476 (Not processed) 3.74
4147400301100721 59 Suspected Fraud 534 (CVV Match) 9.58
4334777367517085 15 No Such Issuer 123 () 5.87
4270829075543980 59 Suspected Fraud 279 (CVV Match) 1.29
4482130016492617 46 Closed Account 540 (CVV Match) 3.12
4147400298652262 59 Suspected Fraud 066 (CVV Match) 4.76
5452128032552805 63 Sec Violation 600 (CVV Match) 8.15
4921828656576453 59 Suspected Fraud 721 (CVV Match) 8.92
4659446598878396 19 Re Enter 227 (CVV Match) 8.75
5434709001094151 63 Sec Violation 659 (CVV Match) 9.20
5573615045453298 51 Decline 828 (CVV Match) 2.44
4462911413522245 59 Suspected Fraud 647 (CVV Match) 7.26
4978740372744723 00 Approval 520 (CVV Match) 1.56
4921816601401752 59 Suspected Fraud 760 (CVV Match) 9.11
4165987046187150 51 Decline 421 (CVV Match) 6.50
4344994575025581 59 Suspected Fraud 402 (CVV Match) 1.30
4216040011017223 51 Decline 300 (CVV Match) 7.63
4751310113002410 59 Suspected Fraud 641 (CVV Match) 5.88
5573615027670729 51 Decline 089 (CVV Match) 8.43
5240146800290280 00 Approval 479 (CVV Match) 8.60
4921817497348263 41 Hold-call 644 (CVV Match) 2.78
4921828436386215 43 Hold-call 743 (CVV Match) 6.49
5188310030514661 62 Decline 357 (CVV Match) 8.26
5573525355727563 57 Serv Not Allowed 811 (Not processed) 7.18
4216040014001794 51 Decline 080 (CVV Match) 2.72
4342562346276957 =2402 00 Approval CVV Match 3.70
4366182847177884 =2512 59 Suspected Fraud CVV Match 8.62
5480146919759323 =2604 41 Hold-call CVV Match 6.90
4347697083512506 =2511 00 Approval CVV Match 4.94
4815820342539416 =2703 51 Decline CVV Match 4.91
5102778097450776 =2509 43 Hold-call Not processed 1.16
4403934483221615 =2701 51 Decline CVV Match 6.76
4342562432879854 =2602 00 Approval CVV Match 2.71
376779983901005 =2608 00 Approval CVV Match 6.75
4342562439927052 =2603 46 Closed Account CVV Match 1.87
4403931996912714 =2512 51 Decline CVV Match 4.25
4342562858953522 =2603 46 Closed Account CVV Match 7.43
4347697086675425 =2604 46 Closed Account CVV Match 8.86
4867966911125280 =2703 00 Approval CVV Match 5.64
Should I remind everyone here, these are UNSOLD cards. Understand? These were never released for sale.
So go ahead and tell me these check results are for the show here.
You decided to scam my customers tossing me trash databases that were sold in some place else - you lose ANY payoff. It's been clearly mentioned when you requested to become a vendor. So quit fucking around and give me a clear explanation why and how you're valid rate drops from %75 to %20 in a single day and most cards are reported lost, stolen, pick ups and hold-call?
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The answer is extremely clear and obvious. You've tried to scam my customers with USED cards. This will never be allowed in my shop.
Requesting forum administration to label these 2 scumbags as RATS.
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Old 05-08-2025, 04:19 AM

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you said "if one buyer bought Hold-Call cards, he will not choose cards from this database again". then you saying oh i sell fast. bullshit. i checked the stats on sales right before you steal my account. many customers bought more than 5 pcs through different times of the day. if they didn't work. they wouldn't have bought them again.
you say you want a clear explanation why the valid rate drops? cause you're checking the same ccs sold and used (by your own customers) and you have disabled my seller's access for me not to be able to screenshot more proofs.
very amazed to see after 5 years of service, you're still a money dog starving for money, you say im a scumbag and dumb, oh no. you wish you were like me, your business doesnt exist without people like me.
you are not adding any proofs, anybody with little common sense reading your messages will see through your fake story, you don't answer the questions asked. you don't supply proofs. you can't find the ccs u r claiming to be sold anywhere. this is just an excuse to rip off 7000$. you had just put the rule of the 10 days shit and you are abusing it yourself. lol
i didn't take money from no one, i supplied almost 1k ccs through 10 days. you still accepted them different days, different batches and i didn't get paid a penny in the promised time, you didn't just disable my seller account, after few hours explain why did you change the password? your customers passwords should have more respect than that.
how come im the ripper? i supplied service for 11 days that you seemed to be perfectly accepting, then you only decide different when i didn't wanna upload again before i get paid.
i request for mak to read your comments and mine and judge if this is any fair or legit
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Old 05-08-2025, 04:20 AM

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AGAIN.
Not a single attempt to explain as to why UNSOLD cards are being reported lost-stolen, hold-call, pick up and suspected fraud, with others being closed accounts, no such issuer, etc.
Everybody knows I pay my vendors in timely manner for years, amounts way higher than your miserable 7k. Rats are not getting a single dollar in my shop.
Everything you've said was a lie. I provide proofs and check logs, you're ignoring them or saying no proofs were provided.
Supplied for 11 days? That's a lie. Go to your own first screenshot of the panel. You've uploaded 3 databases with 200+ cards with 2 other dbs being rejected for being total trash garbage while other dbs dropped in valid rate to 20% with most cards being reported with question as to why you totally ignore or saying "what do you mean stolen" in tickets. So fuck off with your endless lies.
It's pointless to further discuss anything here with a lying rat.
Requesting forum administration to label these 2 scumbags as RATS.
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Old 05-08-2025, 04:20 AM

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nobody can say whether the cards you supplied in the checker results are marked sold in the shop or no since you hid all access from me.
its very easy to check sold cards and come lie about that here since nobody has access to that but you. also easier to kill cards with checker.
ask everybody in crdclub nowadays they know that you rip sellers and everybody is warning about you now.
supplied for 11 days a lie? i registered 9 oct and uploaded 10 oct (shows in my previous screenshots). you banning me and stealing all my shit was the day i created this thread which is 20th oct.
i uploaded 3 database with 289+ cards each.
you say the other 2 dbs i uploaded were rejected for being trash? really? lucky i have screenshots
reason for declining my UK (GB) upload :

fixed the format (removed 'state' column) and re uploaded :

you accepted the same exact ccs uploaded, why? because the issue with my 2 declined dbs was the format, not the validity. you are a hypocrite
im showing you actual proofs right from your shop.
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Old 05-08-2025, 04:21 AM

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saber22 - забанен за попытку кидка шопа. Это будет прецедент разбора альтернативных блеков, где:
Ни ты ни твой воображаемый партнер так и не объяснили почему повторный чек непроданных карт такой низкий.
Продажи баз в несколько рук - бан аккаунта на форуме.
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