Hinxuren is a ripper!!!
his jabber:
mailto:[email protected]
He refused to use local ESCROW. And pushed me to use other places.
Later I transferred him 750$ as we agreed. After that he started to change our arrangements and asked me to transfer more money.
He never did his job!!!
I can show statements from my accounts I provided to him. These accounts are alive and stable. They work from 2012. And he is a lair!!!
Code:
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 7, 2018 23:59)
Hey bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 7, 2018 23:59)
I'm from crdclub
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 00:55)
hello
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:01)
Hi
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:02)
Hello
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:02)
How can I help you?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:02)
I saw your post on crd
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:02)
Okay
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:02)
you are looking for xoom drops
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:02)
can you send to China?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:03)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:03)
There is an option 3k limit to Chinese unionpay card
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:04)
I know
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:04)
3K is max at the time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:04)
yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:04)
I have a lot of unionpay cards
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:04)
Then we could work, I accept escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:05)
I charge 30% for Xoom -> china
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:05)
You mean 30% to your part?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:05)
Or to my part?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:06)
no, I charge 30% upfront through escrow, 70% is yours
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:06)
Got it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:06)
How serious it is?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:07)
What do you mean?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:07)
I mean, how stable is it?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:07)
works each time, it's done properly, it's not something I do first time lol
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:07)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:08)
when can we start?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:08)
I can start any time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:08)
I'm prepared
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:08)
What amount you can do for first time?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:09)
If you got like 2x union cards prepared, I can do 2x 3k for first time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:09)
I've got at the moment more than 20
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:10)
Do they process transactions during days off?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:10)
Or working days only?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:10)
I need to check on it, but I think yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:10)
ACH for example only business days
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:10)
Yeah, that's what I mean
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:10)
but Xoom should work any day, they are processing it themselves, so its not through bank
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:11)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:11)
So, we can start on Monday then
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:11)
That's fine with me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:12)
ok. Do you need escrow or deposit on my balance?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:12)
I think if amount is below $10,000 then it's instant
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:12)
On crd forum -
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:12)
I would like you to initiate escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:12)
fine
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:12)
I will prepare everything
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:13)
I'm YUAN there
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:13)
Are you registered on Ger Fraud Community?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:13)
I'm verified vendor there
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:13)
no
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:13)
I tend to stay away from clearnet sites like crd, but if you could register on ger fraud community I would appreciate that
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:14)
I understand escrow is needed only for first 3 or 4 deals, after that we'll move on to direct deals?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:14)
Bro, just last week I was ripped 3 times
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:14)
let's do it here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:14)
<a href="https://t.me/fraudcarding">https://t.me/fraudcarding</a> - register
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:14)
It's telegram channel with 1k+members, they are dealing only with verified vendors and PGP is checked each time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:15)
I see
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:15)
owner is penissmith, person who was responsible for scam watch on alphabay and you can find his pgp here:<br><a href="https://www.deepdotweb.com/author/penissmith/">https://www.deepdotweb.com/author/penissmith/</a>
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:15)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:16)
if you don't mind I will initiate escrow on crdclub
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:16)
Thank you, after registering read pinned messages and contact admin for all neccessary information regarding their escrow service
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:16)
I'm cashing out for years already
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:16)
I'm not familiar with crdclub, just registered there and it's full of clueless people, it's hosted on clearnet and it's really weird place
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:17)
It's just for few first deals
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:17)
it can be as deposit for you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:17)
I'll look up crd club a little bit more, see what is it about, but check out Escrow channel I gave you too and lets decide after we both figure it out
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:17)
sure
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:18)
My point is there is noone reputable behind CRD club, it's clearnet and its russian, which brings some doubts, while GER fraud group community is somehow known with reputable members behind it who are allowing to check their PGP and confirm their identity, but again, I'll check CRD club a little and you check GER fraud group.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 01:19)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:17)
Also 2 things you might be interested in :
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:18)
?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:18)
I got for sale:<br>1) bethemillionaire.com - I got root ssh/db access to this website for sale<br>morele.net - I've got full access of admin panel of morele.net, <a href="https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/morele.net">https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/morele.net</a> , top 100 in poland, access to admin panel, orders, customers, everything. this is one of the largest shops with pc stuff,if you type "[any graphic card name] price" in polish google it's indexed first or second. 10k ORDERS daily ( I can upload screenshots from control panel)<br><a href="https://cdn-05.anonfile.com/c0M89bi2b3/5a17b599-1538861946/Zrzut%20ekranu%20z%202018-10-06%2014-45-22.png">https://cdn-05.anonfile.com/c0M89bi2b3/5a17b599-1538861946/Zrzut%20ekranu%20z%202018-10-06%2014-45-22.png</a><br><a href="https://cdn-01.anonfile.com/E9Jd9dibb4/938b040b-1538862002/Zrzut%20ekranu%20z%202018-10-06%2014-31-56.png">https://cdn-01.anonfile.com/E9Jd9dibb4/938b040b-1538862002/Zrzut%20ekranu%20z%202018-10-06%2014-31-56.png</a><br><a href="https://cdn-04.anonfile.com/d3Y3A4i9b0/8b6206bd-1538862493/Zrzut%20ekranu%20z%202018-10-06%2022-45-56.png">https://cdn-04.anonfile.com/d3Y3A4i9b0/8b6206bd-1538862493/Zrzut%20ekranu%20z%202018-10-06%2022-45-56.png</a> three columns, "nowe" means "new", "potwierdzone" means "confirmed" and "magazyn" means "warehouse" and "wszystkie" means "all".<br>I'm able to manually add/edit pending invoices for example for that site, which could be big cash out possibility, as I noticed by observing they often pay amounts like 100K for some orders<br><br>EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend' EMAIL_HOST = 'smtp.gmail.com' # mail service smtp EMAIL_HOST_USER = '[email protected]' # email id EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = 'mxxenaKP00' #password EMAIL_PORT = 587 EMAIL_USE_TLS = True
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:20)
Didn't understand
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:20)
Ok - don't worry, if you didn't understand that means you are surely not interested in that kind of stuff
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:21)
I'm interested
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:21)
you mean, they pay 100k just change the receiving bank details?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:22)
Kind of
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:25)
Sounds interesting
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:26)
Did they ever paid to China?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:26)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:26)
Many countries
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:26)
Hmmm
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:27)
Let's start with xoom bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:27)
get know each other
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:28)
Also if you can do swift wire I can receive too
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:28)
That's fine with me, and yes I can do swift wires
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:28)
From which countries?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:29)
UK, NL
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:29)
How is it? Does it go through?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:30)
To China it must take 1-2 days
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:30)
Look, I'm not offering stuff that "does not go through"
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:30)
Processing up to 2 business days
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:30)
I know
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:30)
I received before
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:31)
the fastest are from AU, USA, Canada
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:31)
Around 8-12 hours
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:32)
Ok, look
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:32)
I have a lot of personal accounts
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:32)
Bank of China
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:32)
it's the fastest bank
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:33)
I tried others but all transactions anyway go through Bank of China
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:33)
that's why it takes longer
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:33)
the limits for these accounts 10k a day
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:34)
50k a year
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:34)
cashout - no problem
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:34)
Within 24 hours payback
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:35)
We can have a good business
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:36)
If limits are as you say, 10k a day and you got many of those drops
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:36)
We can have something good long term wise
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:36)
I'm in China, but I'm not Chinese. I control everything by myself
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:36)
I understand
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:36)
There are no drops
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:37)
I have a channel how to open accounts
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:37)
I hold everything in my hands
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:37)
and control by myself
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:38)
So, no risk about drops
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:39)
Look, I'm definitely after long term cooperation, it's all sounds good what you described, the set up you have, as you see I've got some things running here too, I got multiple streams of funding for transfers, I work 24/7 to get more of them, I would definitely scale up my business if you got many drops and you are willing to work with me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:39)
Sure
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:44)
Also I'm willing to lower my rates after couple of transactions that went smooth
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:44)
But I'm after profit here, just like everyone else
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:44)
Well, usually I work 50/50
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:45)
I never had a deal 50/50, usually I do 30%, assuming 10% is cost of transfer (sometimes more than that) and 20% is my return and I go lower down to 23-25% after its's established between me and customer
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:46)
But it's fun to find out people are offering 50/50 deals on that kind of cooperation
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:46)
Maybe me 30/70 deal is due to the fact I take upfront my % (escrow)
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:47)
Yeah, my partners never asked upfront. They had a test payments. Like a low amount first couple of times. And later go ahead
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:48)
I told you what I'm comfortable with, think this through, learn about escrow I want to use, check people behind it, get back to me with some info
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:49)
Bro, I'm ok with escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:49)
but let's do it on crd
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:50)
since we are both registered there
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:51)
It will bring you more customers
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:51)
Same as for me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:52)
because, honestly, for the last 2 weeks I was ripped for 2200 usd
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:52)
you can see on the forum
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:53)
black list
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:56)
Problem for me is, crd is clearnet site, I have no clue who's behind it - and I'm around since early day of Evo's, I had lvl7 of vendor on alphabay, was actively involved in hansa and traderoute...
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:56)
I'm registered on CRD (like yesterday) but I don't trust them at all
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:57)
They are reliable about escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:57)
so is ger fraud group run by penissmith
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:57)
Let's do like this
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:58)
one deal - crd
Next one - ger fraud
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:58)
Are you familiar with any known vendors?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:58)
You want to start with CRD badly, maybe we should find some neutral ground then
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:58)
My partners are all from verify forum
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 02:59)
I'll make you a small list, hold on:
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:03)
People I recently dealt with about transfers (within last month):<br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br>Vendors you might be familiar with who can vouch for me:<br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto
[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto
[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> - admin of hiddenhand on riot.im<br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><br><br><br>
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:03)
You can reach out to any of that people and ask about me or my services and I guarantee you no person will say bad word about me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:06)
No, I don't know these people
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:06)
So, how can we start then?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:09)
<A HREF="https://t.me/fraudcarding">https://t.me/fraudcarding</A> - subscribe to channel, read pinned messages, contact admin and ask exactly how escrow works with them, you can make custom term of first deal for example not to release funds a week after transfer in order to make sure there is no chargeback. Second deal I'm willing to give a shot and do transfer first, from that point if everything will go smooth I'm willing to go first each time we deal. IF you manage to keep up with your word and provide bank drops on daily basis, I'm in
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:11)
Bro, I believe you. I believe your group is real. I believe your list is real.
Just 2 weeks ago, I found some forum. Paid to escrow 800 usd and they banned me. Last week I was ripped 3 times by rippers from crd.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:12)
2200 in total
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:13)
I understand your point of view, I've been ripped after dealing with same person for 10+ times, finally we've done bigger transfer and I've never heard from him again, yet I'm here working
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:14)
What forum did you find that banned you after doing escrow? Could you share? Always do research and from my experience it's best to figure out who's behind site/forum/escrow, and if people are unknown, avoid it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:14)
About crd, their escrow and admins looks reliable
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:14)
1 minute
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:15)
This is the same way of thinking I got, you got something what looks reliable, I got something what looks reliable.<br>Reason I told you who admin of ger fraud group, because it's known person on deep web, he's an author on deepdotweb.com and he has PGP listed publicly in order to confirm his identity
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:15)
I understand where you coming from, hence no rush or pression, you make your own research about escrow I want to use or about me and feel free to get back to me (or not)
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:18)
ccc.mn
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:18)
This one
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:20)
1 - clearnet<br>2 - russian<br>seeing any resemblence?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:22)
Bro, for me to pay escrow at ger fraud is the same as pay upfront to you)
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:24)
Besides the fact you can easily check on identity of admin of the community, you can contact many vendors who worked through them and it's same community that exists since evo and alphabay, while for me to do escrow through clearnet russian site is the same as I do transfer upfront to you, you just gave me an example of similar site who scammed you for $800
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:28)
****************.onion
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:29)
Do you know this forum?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:29)
Now, checking it ot now
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 03:29)
It's one of the oldest one
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 04:02)
So?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 04:02)
Is this forum ok?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 04:07)
I'll msg you in 3h, but I don't think I want to use any russian speaking forum that I never heard of before meeting you bud.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 04:08)
Let's make a decision later
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 04:11)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 04:11)
Talk later, take care
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 04:11)
You too
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 15:58)
Hello bro. I've been thinking about your offer. The situation is like this: 1. You don't want to except any other forum for escrow and want me to use your platform for escrow which is unfamiliar for me too.
2. We are both interested in cooperation.
In this case, I can see only one solution.
I will provide to you online access to the account you make a transfer. And we can start with the small amounts. We see each others work and can move forward.
Honestly, bro, for the time I work in this field I never ripped anybody. You will see that once we begin.
Some of accounts are 7-8 years old. They are really stable and can receive everything.
If we want to have a good business bro, we need to trust each other.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 8, 2018 16:00)
I even ready to pay back 100% to you from the first transaction. To prove I'm really reliable.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 9, 2018 00:12)
So?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 9, 2018 00:13)
What's your opinion?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 9, 2018 02:09)
You know my opinion
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 9, 2018 07:16)
So?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 9, 2018 11:40)
Let's initiate escrow on crdclub and begin our cooperation
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 9, 2018 23:52)
So?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 9, 2018 23:52)
What do you think?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 04:25)
I'm here, buddy look I told you how I want to get done first 2 deals, after that we can move on to direct transfers
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:07)
Mate, where is guarantee that when I make escrow on your channel I will not be thrown away?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:18)
And once you registered at crdclub and post your articles there what's the problem to have escrow there? What was the reason to post your advertisement there?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:25)
I registered there 2 days ago, posted two posts, I really have no experience with it apart from that what I posted which I did in order to help people out. Some people from crd messages me already and I'm helping them out, you can wait a month or two and see, I'll be still there, posting free quality content for people in need
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:25)
I posted advertisement only to expand my business, people with drops are always way to scale up on your profits
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:26)
It's not "MINE" channel, I'm only a vendor there (verified one) but if you'll message admin and ask him about vendors for transfers I believe apart from me he would give you 10 other contacts
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:26)
you are free to test them out or do whatever you wish
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:28)
Mate, both of us know how to pump telegram groups and channels. It can pumped in 10 minutes. Who know...
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:30)
Im not registered on telegram and I never personally used, I don't believe their encryption, I mean they hold the private keys server side that means encryption exists only in theory
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:31)
With ger group community and people who are behind it I'm familiar for long time, I did run check on it to confirm those are same people as before (first time when I dealt through them) and over the next deals with other people they only confirmed their legitimacy
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:31)
You can do it yourself, research who's owner, compare publicly posted PGP public keys on sites like reddit/deepdotweb/other markets and verify it with admins
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:49)
If are not registered on telegram how are you going to initiate escrow there?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:50)
I'm not initiating it, the way it works buyer reach out to admin of escrow, they ask you all about service you are ordering and vendor you are using, give you some tips and recommendations how to preferably set up and escrow the best way it protects you, then they prepare PGP message for vendor (this case with my private key) for you to forward
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:50)
Message comes with: all terms for service/ service itself / time of escrow etc, and their public key
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:50)
and also wallet address for escrow balance
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:51)
I decrypt message -> confirming im the real hinzuren, then respond to their PGP key with "confirm" that I agree to all terms of escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 09:51)
That way I got everything clear, escrow got it clear and you got it clear -> I got balance and I see when it's loaded = escrow started, you got the balance and see its not moving etc
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 11:32)
Back in 7-10h
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 19:59)
Ok mate
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 19:59)
I contacted with escrow admin
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 20:00)
he asked me to provide the deal details
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:05)
you initiated it already?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:05)
No
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:05)
waited for you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:06)
Do I need to do anything? Any things you would like me to talk
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:06)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:06)
Details regarding how escrow works:
U agree terms with vendor and get back to me
Then I’ll prepare PGP message with vendor private key with wallet address + terms + public key of mine.
Then you forward that message to vendor, he decrypts it, and prepare message back to my public key saying “confirm”
Now he has wallet address of escrow, he can see when it’s started and he confirms terms for deal.
Funds are loaded to escrow balance wallet and I they are not moving until you release the funds
Agree with vendor who’s paying escrow fee - 5%
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:07)
He sent to me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:07)
So what's needed from me exactly, we need to agree exact terms for it yes?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:07)
Right now
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:07)
I don't know what you talked about with escrow already and whats still left to agree for
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:08)
for me everything is clear as we talked before - amounts, kind of transfers, everything according to our discussions
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:08)
I need to know a little in advance - couple hours in order to be ready to do transfer
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:09)
Bro, since this service is unfamiliar for me. I will pay 300$ for first deal.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:11)
mailto:[email protected]/root1337: If you got like 2x union cards prepared, I can do 2x 3k for first time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:11)
Not sure how deal has changed, but we are still talking about transfers to union card
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:11)
with 3k limits on them
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:11)
Ye?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:12)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:13)
but, I mean, about escrow. It doesn't mean I don't have cash or whatever. Just because this service is unfamiliar for me.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:13)
I work on 30%, 0.30 of 6k is 1800, I don't really know what do you want me to do over 300 bucks, look as I talked earlier, I'm not in the rush, if you want to check if I'll be around in few months doing same thing you are welcome to
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:14)
Look, I place 300, you do 1000 transfer. Once you do it I place another escrow straight away
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:16)
I think I explained it before already, the cost of transfer is not 0 for me, doing a $1000 transfer is putting me under water, as amount is below profitable line, I actually pay for this transfer to happen, I think I gave you all the details about funding behind those transfers bud
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:16)
I would discuss if I agree to do 3+1.5k, but 1k is completely lacking sense for me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:18)
For bigger amount - Crdclub escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:18)
I tried to take your part
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:18)
why should I accept and you don't want to move
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:19)
I can provide you as many accounts as you need
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:19)
If we want to cooperate we need to negotiate
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:20)
not only take your part
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:26)
And btw, you mentioned your accounts cost you some money. Don't you think my accounts cost me money too? And moreover, after one transaction it will beblacklisted in USA. Everyone take a risk in this business. But once we want to earn money - let's do it.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:27)
I'm in this business about 10 years and never ripped anybody
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:29)
>>> you mentioned your accounts cost you some money. Don't you think my accounts cost me money too? And moreover, after one transaction it will beblacklisted in USA. Everyone take a risk in this business. But once we want to earn money - let's do it.<br>Yeah, there is cost of set up and cost of transfer - I'm not saying you should waste your accounts then, if it would be required by you I'm willing to put 1 or 2K to escrow balance myself if you are worried of any negative outcome that could actually put you in bad position
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:30)
I'm willing to negotiate things on that, not to do $300 transfer for 1K which is below profitable line and I find it insulting after I explained to you why it's not worth doing, you still ask me for. I told you I'll be around for long time as I'm always here, I'm not going anywhere and not rushing things, maybe after few months you will find out some more things about ger fraud group or me (from other vouches) and we'll do business
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:32)
Why not crd club escrow? I put there as much as you say. It will safe for both of us.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:39)
It's so funny from your side. You came to this forum, placed your advertisement about xoom etc and you ask people from the forum to initiate escrow at other place. Doesn't it look strange?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:48)
CRD escrow is clearnet russian site, by definition its not trust worthy. Audience is wide though and I appreciate it, my goal was to register on board just after seeing newbies questions about basics to share some tips for them - which I'll be doing when I'm free, I wrote the post about looking for people with bank drops to see response - some people messaged me on jabber, most of them I declined to work with, as I'm not after one time transfer, 1 guy is working on providing me business US bank account for big transfer already, 2 others are holding funds in escrow, none of them is registered on crdclub, yet they browse it regularly - that is very telling to me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:49)
I'm not in position to be desperate to chase people here, I'm looking to scale and to expand and I'm using every platform possible, again, my goal is to be part of big network that works close to scripted and automated cash flow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:51)
Ok. Let's do like this then. You place escrow on crd forum which will be guarantee of your work. I place on Ger Fraud.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:58)
And we write all terms and conditions for both places. In this case are you ready?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 22:59)
I told you, there is no problem with me. I'm clear. But you try to make it more complicated.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 23:03)
And no problem to pay you back after first transaction
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 23:28)
You insist on me putting the money to CRD no matter what, this deal makes no sense - so money is in CRD anyway - If you insist of me paying some kind of money to escrow, I'm willing to load 1 or 2K to escrow balance and I can put it first before you, but I want to keep it outside the CRD - I explained why. I would be willing to use some known vendor as escrow too - if you are familiar with anyone that I know too - we can go that route
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 10, 2018 23:28)
I'll be back in 3-4h
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 06:50)
Hello
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 08:59)
I had a chat with escrow on crd but they say they only do domain transactions but not money transfers
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:03)
Let me talk to him
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:04)
Because after I was ripped I contacted him and he said better I use escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:16)
Look
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:16)
Let's get it done as I wanted, first one through escrow, after that I'll load first
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:16)
We can lower the amount (obviously not to $300) and rest you will pay after cashing out
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:16)
Let's get this rolling
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:18)
Bro, honestly, I just tried to find any information about Ger Fraud - nothing there. I asked people - nobody knows. That's why I'm ready to place escrow at crd
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:27)
Ask seighten, admin of hiddenhand, penissmith, former scam watch from AB and admin crew, ask iiuii or any big vendor
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:27)
You told about CRD escrow I finally decided to contact them to find out a little bit more
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:27)
and they say absolutely no money transfers
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:27)
I'm cool with that
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:27)
I'm open for business as we talked before, looking forward to hear back from you if we are going to work on those union accs or we give up
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:28)
I am ready for cooperation
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:28)
just need to negotiate with you the first step
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:29)
That's all what I do to get this started, I agreed to put 1K to escrow myself for sake of it, I agreed to custom terms, I agreed to lower the amount in exchange for afterwards pay
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:31)
Let me talk to mailto:[email protected]
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:31)
he is in charge of escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:31)
who's that though?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:31)
what's the name of him, because all people behind crd club seems to be unknown everywhere apart from crd club itself
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:32)
and none of big vendors is registered ther
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:32)
there
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:32)
he is crd admin
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:32)
so crd club admin goes by name of "support"?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:32)
and he is in change of escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:32)
no no
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:33)
he is "mak" there
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:33)
Super moderator
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:42)
what about escrow through penissmith?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:44)
Bro, I don't know him
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:44)
<a href="https://www.deepdotweb.com/author/penissmith/">https://www.deepdotweb.com/author/penissmith/</a>
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:44)
You showed me this before
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:44)
I saw it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:45)
qshop? seighten?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:45)
ggm?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:45)
bigmuscle?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:45)
I don't know them too
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:45)
even asked people from my list
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:46)
maybe they know
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:46)
what vendors you got on your list
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:46)
anyone from alphabay?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:46)
Well, they are all Russian speaking though
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:47)
Some of them are from ****************.onion
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:47)
russian forums and boards are small part of deep web fraud world, and honestly russians are known for scams mostly
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:47)
This forum is one of the oldest one
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:48)
you send me some generated onion link to russian site while its literally unknown shit hole, places that matter were alphabay, hansa, traderoute, evo, TCF
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:48)
I understand you might not be familiar if you are new or you are russian yourself
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:49)
and I understand your issue, but you not knowing legitimate people who are not russian (I don't doubt some of them are decent people) is probably going to stop us from doing business
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:51)
Bro, honestly, I don't like any forums. And all connections I've got are from private side. As I told you, I'm doing this business for almost 10 years. I was in prison in Hong Kong. Some connections I've got from there. Trust me, I don't want to do any shit or rip people.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:52)
Every time all my partners are satisfied with me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:53)
And, I'm not Russian
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:53)
I can say the same about myself, but one thing I suggest is not to reveal to much personal stuff around here, mentioning things like time in jail or being in china while not being chinese, it's not an idea to reval all that
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:54)
I want to believe you, but it's all words and I know you feel exactly the same about me lol, and that is what stops us from running this already
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:54)
Understand
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:55)
but, 1. Crd escrow will bring us some benefits.
2. It's a public forum. At least people will see our deal
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 10:56)
I'm ready anytime
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:00)
I feel like I tried my best to get this deal through, I gave you contact to like 20 vendors, I offered escrow through skynet, through seighten's hidden hand <a href="https://hiddenhand.club/u/Seighten">https://hiddenhand.club/</a> , through GER FRAUD forum which is run by known deep web activist, I gave you contact to my customers, I agreed to lower my payment through escrow in exchange for rest of payment after cash out, I contacted CRD admin who told me "no money transfers definitely" and at this point I simply give up. You find me not trust worthy, you can't find vouch about me or you think my transfers are imagination, it's all good - we part our ways as I see this is stopped in one dead end and I can't be really bothered to offer anything else, because everything I suggest is a no-go for you and this is clearly time waste for both of us. If I were doing transfers that are cost - free for me I would be happy to do first one upfront and expect payment afterwards, but this is simply not an option
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:03)
Bro, I even sent request to one of your clients
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:03)
yesterday
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:03)
he didn't reply
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:04)
<b><font color="#204a87"><font size="3">[email protected]/root1337: </font></font><font size="3"></font></b><font size="3">People I recently dealt with about transfers (within last month):<br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>Vendors you might be familiar with who can vouch for me:<br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> - admin of hiddenhand on riot.im<br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br></font>
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:04)
Which one
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:04)
Leave them a message why you add them
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:05)
You can message all of those people and get back to me after month
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:05)
mailto:[email protected]
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:05)
This one
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:05)
he's offline atm
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:06)
Bro, how much do you want to place an escrow at your side?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:07)
I mean, how much do you want me to put there?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:08)
If you ask me how much I can put, I can load 1K and do it first, no problem with that for me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:08)
If I'm doing 2x 3000 to union as you wanted, then it equals $6000
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:08)
I can do first one 25% ratio, which is 1500
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:09)
I can agree for 1K in escrow and 500 after cash out
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:09)
Next transfers I can do first and you pay me afterwards
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:09)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:09)
How much do you need for materials?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:11)
it's not easy to count the cost of set up, as this is prepared and I do it in bulk, meaning I do more than one at the time, I'm not running an excel table with total costs, but to do 2x3000 the way we agreed + I explained you exactly what it takes to fund those transfers and how I'm getting it done - it takes more than 500 surely for that amount
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:16)
Because look, for me to accept your place for escrow is the same as to pay upfront. That's why it doesn't make sense of any escrow for me. I better pay you upfront. Tell me how much. And that's it. If you think I try to beg you or something like that, you are wrong. I paid upfront many many times. Yes, some of them were done. But most of them just ripped me.
Here is the same. It's 50/50 chance.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:21)
I want to have a long time cooperation. And now we just stuck. And can not make decision. I'm ready. I told you.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:22)
But the amount must be reasonable.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:22)
Look right now I feel like you put me in not really comfortable position
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:22)
Why?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:22)
I'm willing to work with you, but doing it without escrow is not fair towards you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:22)
I pay upfront some amount
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:23)
I'm not hit and run type of person, you say about long term cooperation and this is what I'm about, I want to make it going for a while (actually as long you can deliver)
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:23)
I just don't want you to go over the line for me, I want to get this started the right way, not putting pressure on you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:23)
if it's difficult for us to start I will make the first step.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:23)
I really appreciate that though
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:26)
So, just tell me the reasonable amount
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:27)
As I offered, let's split it for first transfer then, you decided to make it simple, I'm up for it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:28)
How much?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:29)
Will do twice 3k, 1,5 is what I want (which is 25%), +- 500 is cost of transfer, let's add 300 to it, and remaining amount after cashing out<br>if you deliver as you said (+remaining amount) and you got resources - I'll do immediately next 3x3000 shortly after receiving remaining funds for first deal
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:29)
The second transfer 3x3000 I'll do upfront as gesture of good faith and hopefully this will reward you somehow the way it started and we'll get from clean page at that point
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:30)
You mean 800$?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:30)
I actually want to split it for even 2 parts, so could be 750 before, 750 after
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:32)
Ok, we both know it's a kind of Russian roulette for me.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:33)
I have to go now. I will get ready until US working time.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:34)
But I'm always online
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:35)
that's fine, I should be ready in about 10h anyway, got some things to take care first, after that I should be online all day time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:35)
Talk soon
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 11:36)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 20:14)
Hey, I'll be around and available v soon
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 20:14)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 20:14)
me too
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:15)
I'm here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:19)
Me too
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:19)
bro, on which forums are you registered?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:20)
coz I found out that AlphaBay closed down
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:20)
Alphabay is down for last 2 years... So is Hansa, Traderoute
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:20)
It's all got taken down
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:21)
People say that a lot of vendors moved to the new forum
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:21)
If alphabay was up we would simple deal there, I had lvl7 vendor account on AB
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:21)
There is lack of new forums and markets unfortunately, hence the people who moved on to direct deals / deals with only existing customers base
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:22)
Each new market+forum exit scamed shortly after it went up
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:23)
First was TCF, it was huge community, it went down, then Evo, same story and alphabay which was huge bust for feds, the main guy behind AB was caught in thailand and killed himself while waiting for deportation to US
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:23)
Wtf(((
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:26)
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mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:26)
It's mostly human errors in opsec
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:26)
Where is that from
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:27)
Unfortunately grams database of PGP keys no longer exists
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:27)
From deepdot
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:27)
Yeah
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:27)
was reading today)
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:27)
After alphabay went down, some markets tried to take over
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:28)
Hansa succeed - it went run by feds and it was operation to take down vendors, 2 months it existed run by feds and they took many vendors, then suddenly shut it down
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:28)
After that traderoute which was hope to replace alphabay, they exit scammed like 3 months after existance
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:28)
And here we are, at this point
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:30)
Nice read:<br><a href="https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/07/14/alleged-alphabay-admin-found-dead-bangkok-jail/">https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/07/14/alleged-alphabay-admin-found-dead-bangkok-jail/</a>
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:31)
<a href="https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/07/20/globally-coordinated-operation-just-took-alphabay-hansa/">https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/07/20/globally-coordinated-operation-just-took-alphabay-hansa/</a>
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:32)
<a href="https://www.deepdotweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/screenshot_2017-07-20_18-00-02-png.png">https://www.deepdotweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/screenshot_2017-07-20_18-00-02-png.png</a> - big muscle is still around btw
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:38)
I saw this forum
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:39)
are you registered there?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:39)
what forum
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:39)
?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:39)
Big muscle
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:39)
Big muscle is not a forum its an user
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:40)
Sorry, made a mistake
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:40)
Dream market
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:40)
Is it good?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:42)
50/50, mixed opinions about both dream and market - some of people behind it are the same ones who were heavily involved in hansa, meaning thats suspicious - why would they run two separate markets at the same time? Some vendors told me they lock the accounts after loading escrows, they delete all negative comments and reviews for vendors they are "working with", they also not allowing new vendors to sell certain stuff, because they want "Their" vendors to keep monopoly over it, so they charge you with 50% fee's
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:42)
Mixed opinions about dream and WSM *
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:44)
Ok, bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:44)
funny question
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:45)
where should I find you if you disappear?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:46)
Look, I'm not going to disappear, I'm here everyday and I'll continue to stay here everyday - after we start working, I can share wickr and my deep web mail address in case of some urgent things if I'm for example not available for day or two, but each time this happens I'll give you heads up
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:47)
Hope you are really reliable
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:47)
I stick to my word and I expect the same from you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:48)
Same
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:50)
When you'll be ready, just send me all info through privnote.com please
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:52)
What details do you need?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:54)
just for confirmation, unionpay prefix is always 62
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:54)
yes?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:55)
Almost
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:55)
some of them 4...
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:56)
the one that starts with 4 are prepaids?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:56)
I need holder info to put, If I would use random it would still probably reach, I need number of acc
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:56)
Let me boot to VM, hold on
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 22:56)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:00)
https://privnote.com/wScOncGU#bHXomgufm
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:01)
Got it saved, I need 3 mins
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:02)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:09)
I'll need like 15 more mins to prepare
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:09)
Meanwhile let's confirm, we are doing $750 x2, before and afterwards, after receiving and paying me rest of funds for transfers, you'll give me next 3 drops
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:10)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:10)
Get back to you in 5 min
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:10)
Take your time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:29)
I already started working on it, <br>privnote with wallet addy:<br><a href="https://privnote.com/oU0vXCRh#qH02M4d9j">https://privnote.com/oU0vXCRh#qH02M4d9j</a><br>Note - keep it saved. It's address generated only for you, I got it saved under your name in electrum - so each next transaction you will do to same wallet (including payment afterwards for first transfers)
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:29)
I'll keep you updated in upcoming 30 minutes about status
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:29)
If i reply slowly - don't panic, I'm working
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:32)
Got it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:50)
I'm almost ready to get it done
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:50)
You've done already your part of the deal?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:50)
One more quick brb
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:51)
Bro, my part will be done asap. Ordered btc already
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:51)
Ok no rush, I'll do everything that needs be done on my side for now, so quick brb and keep me updated
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 11, 2018 23:52)
Sure
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 01:12)
Ready anytime soon?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 01:13)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:00)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:00)
I'm here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:00)
Me too
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:00)
I'm here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:01)
ok, got it done? I need to ask you something
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:01)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:01)
Taobao site, are you familiar with it?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:01)
yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:01)
would you be able to set up a reshipping point or is that too demanding?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:02)
no problem
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:02)
1+1
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:03)
1 pcs ship to your address
1 pcs stay here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:03)
Ok, we'll discuss about it later, because I want to set up smooth operation for taobao->reshipper domestic china #1 -> yours reshipper -> drop, I would still need to figure out how to share % between partiers
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:04)
That could actually work, but I would need some workforce to do it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:04)
We'll discuss about it later
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:04)
no problem
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:04)
I'll check wallet addy in a minute, if transaction shows up in blockchain I'll proceed with first one to zhang lin<br>
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:05)
My friend, you will get it in 30 mins
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:05)
Sorry, misunderstood you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:05)
That you answered "yes" to get it done, nevermind
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:05)
Please message me as soon it's done, I'm keeping everything on hold here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:06)
My friend, my accountant was waiting, now he finishes his dinner with his gf
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:06)
No worries
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:07)
I called him just now
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:07)
Message me as soon you get it done, I'll do small break then
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:07)
sure
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:47)
I transferred
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:47)
Will check in 15 mins and get back to you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:47)
check please
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:48)
Ok, I'm about to finish other business and will check the wallet for incoming tx's, if it appears there I'll get to work immediately, please give me 15 m
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 02:58)
You here?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:06)
Hello?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:06)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:06)
Received my messages?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:07)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:07)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:07)
I confirm tx incoming
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:07)
Have you received btc?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:07)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:08)
0.226
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:08)
Correct, I'm getting to work immediately
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:08)
That's my step bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:09)
Correct
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:09)
Now my turn
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:09)
Hopefully I'll prove it was worth a risk from you and you'll pay me back remaining amount after receiving it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:10)
Mate, you will get 100%
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:12)
ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:34)
So?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:34)
Working
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:34)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:36)
I'll be done with first one in few
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:38)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:43)
Bro, I showed my seriousness
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:43)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:43)
I appreciate that
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:44)
so...
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:44)
?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:44)
I'm working on your transfers right now
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:45)
You turn, bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:45)
Be patient, I'll be shortly finished with first one and move on to next one immdiately
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:45)
It's not instant, so be patient
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 03:45)
ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 04:13)
first one is done
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 04:14)
im working on next now
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 10:27)
Bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 10:27)
both are done
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 10:27)
how is it?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 10:27)
Both are done
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 10:27)
Expect them within bank processing hours
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 10:28)
Should clear today
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 10:29)
Let me check
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 11:05)
Check and let me know, il be around day time central time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 11:05)
Yeah
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 11:06)
sure
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 11:13)
Nothing yet
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 13:03)
Still nothing, bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 16:20)
Still not
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 17:53)
Hey bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 17:54)
How's it going?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 17:57)
Here still nothing
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 18:19)
?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 19:54)
Bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 19:55)
still nothing
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 21:04)
Bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 21:05)
Are you here?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 21:59)
Hey
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 21:59)
Received?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 21:59)
No
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 21:59)
nothing there
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:00)
Check the status of transfers there
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:01)
On my end it's done, it's all about payment processor hough
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:01)
they procesing time
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:03)
just checked one mere time. Still nothing
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:03)
and it's 10 p.m. already here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:04)
if everything is ok must be in the morning
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:05)
Did xoom receive the payment?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:05)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:05)
When?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:06)
As I know from other payment companies you can check the status of transaction
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:06)
They must tell you when it will be delivered
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:07)
Just check it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:08)
Yes, you can track the transfer
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:17)
Have you checked?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:24)
not yet im doing it now
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 22:25)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 23:03)
Mate, have you checked?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 12, 2018 23:22)
Here still nothing
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 00:05)
Bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 00:05)
???
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 01:22)
Bro, where are you?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 03:53)
Bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 03:53)
What happened?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 04:42)
???
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:06)
ill refund you 750, give me your wallet address, if you want to order 6K from me please make it 1500 payment
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:07)
What happened?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:08)
Cost of Xoom transfer is higher than esimated to CHX drop
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:08)
I got messaged on wickr If I impersonated one of person I know and work with, he knows me under different name
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:08)
What do you mean?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:08)
Cost of transfer is higher than estimated
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:10)
I'm not a ripper, so give me your wallet address and I'll refund same transaction
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:10)
When you'll be ready to order for full price, hit me up
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:10)
1EBmDT3PtNQpk7MdexQSXEuPBegE1NhPU6
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:10)
Sending now
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:10)
But you said you transferred yesterday
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:11)
I moved funds to xoom
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:11)
But cost was above 1K for 2x 3000 transfers
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:11)
where is the true then?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:11)
So I tried to lower the amount and it was not possible
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:12)
If you moved funds to xoom why didn't you make a transfer?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:13)
We could work for higher percentage
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:13)
no problem
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:13)
I rather refund and wait till you order for normal price
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:13)
Sorry
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:14)
than to do 1K worth of transfer for 750
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:14)
guy from escrow messaged me, you talked to him?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:14)
Yes
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:14)
because I couldn't find you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:14)
what for? i thought you wanted to deal direct
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:15)
I thought he's got your contact
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:15)
he asked me if im starting escrow through him
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:15)
did you tell him we are going to use them?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:16)
Yes, just to let him find you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:16)
Im willing to send 750 to escrow balance if you'll load other 750 and ill do the transfers
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:16)
Ok
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:16)
Not now
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:16)
Better you transfer back
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:17)
I will think
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:22)
Can't see btc
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:24)
sending through helix
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:34)
But you knew this information
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:34)
why didn't you tell me?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:35)
And in the morning you asked me if money are here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:35)
so funny
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:35)
honestly
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:37)
I was checking all day those accounts
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:42)
Are you here?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 05:55)
yes whats up
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 09:10)
Bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 09:10)
No xoom, no btc
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 09:11)
what's next?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 09:14)
I told u what we can do
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 09:15)
You're sending btc back 4 hours
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 09:26)
what
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:26)
You said you said you are sending btc back to me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:26)
where is it?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:27)
What
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:27)
Bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
are you playing?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
no
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
i already got prepared acconuts and funds
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
i want to do transfers
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
so pay remaining amount and ill do it
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
the way you want
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
through escrow
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
directly
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:28)
whatever
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:29)
lets get it done
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:29)
Bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:29)
btc to my wallet
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:30)
Because you lied to me
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:33)
First you said transfers are done
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:33)
even asked me to check
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:33)
later you said it wasn't done
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:33)
now you say different story
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:34)
it's not a kindergarten
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:34)
we agreed details
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:34)
I did my step
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:35)
So?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:36)
You have 2 options
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:36)
finish your part
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:36)
or btc to my wallet
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:37)
otherwise Escrow service Ger Fraud will be informed about Vendor Hinzuren!
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:38)
look
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:38)
i didnt le
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:38)
lie
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:38)
i wasnt aware
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:38)
cost of transfer will be 1k+
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:38)
Bro, when you said you are ready
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:39)
and after you said transfers are done
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:39)
check my accounts
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:40)
if we go for escorw im willing to do that:
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:40)
i put 750
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:40)
you put 750
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:40)
term: released back to you if you wont receive money within 12h
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:40)
as I said, I'm ready to go here
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:40)
Hahahaha
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:41)
?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:41)
You send back my money first
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:41)
if not, your 750 is covering at least 75% of the cost of set up i prepared and will be wasted
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:41)
thats your only option atm
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:42)
You said you are not a ripper?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:42)
Now you look like
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:42)
and beggar
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:43)
I inform Ger Fraud with all your messages
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:44)
If you have a short memory just read what you said and what we agreed
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:45)
You finish your part and I pay you back
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:45)
dont lol
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:45)
they know im not ripper
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:45)
They will see
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:45)
how you do business
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
so u want me to send back 750
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
and say fuck off to set up i prepared
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
bro
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
and im -200 or more on this "deal"
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
its fucked up
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
if you say it before
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
wasn't aware
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
as I said
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
It wouldn't happen
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
I'll refund you
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:46)
give me your wallet again please
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:47)
1EBmDT3PtNQpk7MdexQSXEuPBegE1NhPU6
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:47)
thx
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:47)
???
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:53)
The admin of Ger Fraud is online
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 10:54)
I send all your messages to them
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 17:51)
So?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 17:51)
You didn't do anything
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 17:52)
Should I do then?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 17:53)
You know, I really was thinking you are serious man
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 18:24)
So, bro, what's your answer?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 18:32)
Bro, it's not the way to do business. If you think you are right let's ask people. As you always wanted to deal with vendors. Let's ask them.
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 18:33)
I'm going to show our conversation to Ger Fraud escrow admin
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 18:33)
And let's see who is right and who is wrong
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 18:36)
Ok?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 18:36)
I start?
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 18:39)
Your silence just confirm you are a ripper
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 18:50)
Silent means consent
mailto:[email protected] (Dec 13, 2018 20:03)
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