Who has usa merchant to cashout USA vcc ??

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These are non charge back vcc and from USA
I only need someone with USA merchant
Your share is 30%
Escrow is a must

[Otstypnuk]

Originally Posted by vbv_dude

These are non charge back vcc and from USA
I only need someone with USA merchant
Your share is 30%
Escrow is a must

I'm pretty sure the % ratio is the other way around.
Of course you hold the right to ask for any amount as you see fit.
BUT,
The person with the P.O.S (physical terminal or virtual) usually holds more power, cos they take more risk. When shit hits the fan, they are coming after him.
Also the P.O.S owner takes more risk by going through though hurdles to setup a P.O.S
Some(and most) won't even need you once they are able to setup the P.O.S themselves because in today's world everyone knows where and how to get CCs and dumps, be it VCC or NOT.
Normally on the street and pretty much everywhere else, its the CC owner that keeps 30-40% while P.O.S owner takes 60-70%. That in itself may vary, depending on how many parties are involved, if its just the 2 individuals, you may find a 50/50 ground but to say the POS owner can only keep 30%...LMAO, I have never in my life heard or seen anywhere that is done.
If you ask for more than that, you're setting yourself up to be scammed. Remember the P.O.S owner holds even more power whence the cash is paid into his account. You won't want a situation where you'll push people to scam you if the %s are not fair.
Again, you do have the self determining right to say: This is what % I want and this what % you keep.
Just my thought, What do I know!

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Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

I'm pretty sure the % ratio is the other way around.
Of course you hold the right to ask for any amount as you see fit.
BUT,
The person with the P.O.S (physical terminal or virtual) usually holds more power, cos they take more risk. When shit hits the fan, they are coming after him.
Also the P.O.S owner takes more risk by going through though hurdles to setup a P.O.S
Some(and most) won't even need you once they are able to setup the P.O.S themselves because in today's world everyone knows where and how to get CCs and dumps, be it VCC or NOT.
Normally on the street and pretty much everywhere else, its the CC owner that keeps 30-40% while P.O.S owner takes 60-70%. That in itself may vary, depending on how many parties are involved, if its just the 2 individuals, you may find a 50/50 ground but to say the POS owner can only keep 30%...LMAO, I have never in my life heard or seen anywhere that is done.
If you ask for more than that, you're setting yourself up to be scammed. Remember the P.O.S owner holds even more power whence the cash is paid into his account. You won't want a situation where you'll push people to scam you if the %s are not fair.
Again, you do have the self determining right to say: This is what % I want and this what % you keep.
Just my thought, What do I know!

I am pretty sure you are clueless about the standard % , but ofcourse you have the right to stick to your ignorance and cherish it as you see fit
Now let's break now your clueless ignorance and senseless rants. You said the merchant owner takes more risk lol..so in the fraud world you really expect the merchant owner to use his real names, pics, address and phone number?? When fake identify and scans have been existing for years?? You seem to be confusing clearnet with darknet
2ndly, you are confusing cc , dumps with vcc lol?? And unless you are blind, I clearly stated it is non-chargeback.
Ccs and dumps get chargebacked , my vcc never gets chargebacked!
So the merchant needs me more because instead of him using ccs and dumps that eventually closes his merchant account and then needs to start another process of opening another one, my vcc doesn't close his merchant account....only someone who is clueless will have problems figuring that simple logic
You seem to never stop spewing your confusion, the street you are talking about is cc owner of ccs or dumps not non chargeback VCC!
ofcourse if I was simply supplying chargeback cc or dumps , I wouldn't be charging 70% because I know the merchant account will get closed when chargeback occurs
LMAO, I like when cluleless ignorant noobs write long meaning rants instead of researching or reading properly first and yet get amazed their cluelessness and ignorance haven't ​been exposed in their entire confused life lol
Another wrong assertion! How do I get scammed, when escrow is a must?? Where did I write I will be giving the vcc upfront without ESCrow?? Perhaps u should spend the time you used in ranting to read carefully
Again, you do have the self determining right to stick to your ignorance and cherish it as you see fit
Well obviously your thoughts are filled with confusion

[Otstypnuk]

Apparently every written words must = rant.
To you, Hi my name is John doe = meaningless rant.
Thank you for schooling me.
Now I consider myself thoroughly schooled!
BUT before I leave though let me show you what a real rant is.
First, Good luck finding a P.O.S owner that will give you 70%. Might I suggest you search for such individual in a cave in CARDINGWORLDnistan ?
Factually, you pointed it out, you shot your own dick off with your revolver:
so in the fraud world you really expect the merchant owner to use his real names, pics, address and phone number?? When fake identify and scans have been existing for years??
So if it's that easy to do, by your logic now, if its that easy to setup, why don't you put them things(scans, bank account, fake ID etc) together get approved for a merchant and cash that MOFO out for 100% profit your self?
And your CCs must be made by the CIA or maybe Pope Francis from the VATICAN bank issued it or was is it issued from the arch angel Michael from St.Petersgate's Bank for them to be 'non-chargeback' ?
In this fraud realm, there are no such things as non-charge back CC or VCC. The only 100% assured VCC or CC that won't charge back are your own legitimate purchases.
To get VCC, you would have either carded it directly or indirectly ILLEGITIMATELY and that's why THEY WILL STILL CHARGE BACK, unless the CC or VCC is forged from your own personal divine vault of 'Bank of vbv_dude' WOULD IT not charge back.
Non-charge back CC or VCC...that word in itself is a oxymoron in this world of fraud. A misnomer.
No such thing period. Its just an illusion someone like you would like to pull over the eyes of a non suspecting rookie.
HAHAHA...Hysterical! 'NON-CHARGE BACK'. More like delayed charge back or prolonged chargeback.
And if it is only delayed or prolonged, then it is still a charge back when it occurs.
The only reason I can muster or counter logic to that would be: you're trying to do a 100% legit business in a carding world, and if that's the case you should go see a psychiatrist and get your head checked(you might have a split personality disorder).
So if reasonably, by that i mean anyone with an IQ above 20, we can deduce and conclude that your not trying to cash a legitimately bought VCC in a fraudulent world then it means you carded/got your VCC through nefarious means.
So that defeats your nonsensical ill logic of 'non-chargeback'.
If the VCC as you claimed are chargeback proof, you would simply go make a legit merchant account yourself and cash the living daylight out of them VCC yourself...It's only logical.
Unless you like giving away free money in which you should have added the word "CHARITY VCC" to your topic headline.
Now if you say okay, I don't wanna go through the stress of opening a merchant account myself, and that is reasonable and allowed, we see it all the time with partnership cashing (clearnet and darknet)....then you've lost the right/privilege to impose an absolute %.
Then show me anyone, I mean anyone at all who would give you 70% and they keep 30%. Provide links and prove of their existence on any forum, many of us would love, LOVE to deal with that unicorn daily!
And you want all 70% in escrow! (which means upfront the POS owner has to pay into escrow). Damn,You are just egotistically senseless man!
If the POS owner did not pay all 70% upfront into ESCROW, then my original assertion holds, that you are begging to be scammed or you will be RIPPED.
And oh P.S:
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You next lines will be:
(a) I'm a nigerian, but of course every one who isn't from your arrogant and delusional world is! (If I had a penny!)
(b) I'm an imbecile, You love that word so much, it should be part of your middle name.
(c) I'm clueless, oh I'm sure, because anyone that challenges your narcissistic carding POV is.
(d) You will school me some more, because you've got a PHD in Criminology or You're a cloak/robe wearing GrandMaster Frauder. Or perhaps my carding GPA is below average so therefore I can't graduate yet.
(e) I don't know anything about VCC, because yea you're a genius who invented it and others have no idea how to card it or where to.

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Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

To you, Hi my name is John doe = meaningless rant.

Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

So if it's that easy to do, by your logic now, if its that easy to setup, why don't you put them things(scans, bank account, fake ID etc) together get approved for a merchant and cash that MOFO out for 100% profit your self?.

Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

Now if you say okay, I don't wanna go through the stress of opening a merchant account myself, and that is reasonable and allowed, we see it all the time with partnership cashing (clearnet and darknet)....then you've lost the right/privilege to impose an absolute %.

Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

Then show me anyone, I mean anyone at all who would give you 70% and they keep 30%. Provide links and prove of their existence on any forum, many of us would love, LOVE to deal with that unicorn daily!
And you want all 70% in escrow! (which means upfront the POS owner has to pay into escrow). Damn,You are just egotistically senseless man!
If the POS owner did not pay all 70% upfront into ESCROW, then my original assertion holds, that you are begging to be scammed or you will be RIPPED..

Apparently your cluelessness is unlimited and your ignorance is unending*
since we all know your name isn't John Doe, so yes kid, that is a rant, but u are obviously too stupid to see that the joke was on you lol
I would have accepted your thanks if you were ready to swallow your stupid broken ego and stop mistaking stupidity as fact, but it seems my last response really struck a nerve that your meaningless rants this time are on steroids
I hoped you wish yourself goodluck in finding someone seeking those logs you wanted to pay a stupid rubbish peanuts $20 for, obviously u saw such individual in a cave or deep in an African Forest lol, even after deceptively masking it as "I offer 1k "
Yes kid, the Internet remembers
Isn't why u deceptively ddubr state the peanuts u were offering on forum so people can pm you ,because you knew fully well if you hadn't evaded that, no one will send a DECEITFUL moron like you pm unless individuals in a cave lol
Ironically you can't see what a contradictory confused clueless kid you are and you keep shooting your own skull with a gun; makes no difference though, it's not like u got any any brains in that empty skull of yours
Your contradictiry confused quote above, but yet u were so senseless to ask yourself, if it was easy for merchant owners to get non charged back vcc ( not the normal cc, dumps, you were so confused about ), why don't the merchant owners get the vcc and keep 100% instead of keeping 70% and giving 30% out, you dumb senseless MORON or perhaps merchant owners run a charity program where they love giving 30% out?
Or if those logs u desperately needed were easy to get and which you were offering that peanut $20, why didn't a FOOL like u get them yourself and shove that $20 in your asshole lol? Or maybe you run a charity program too where u love giving out $20 , lol
You keep confusing Vccs with ccs, for an idiot who claimed he was happy he was schooled, I am sorry to tell you that you are a very slow learner. Perhaps I should card a brain into that empty skull of yours ....I promise to use OVERNIGHT DELIVERY and there WILL BE NO CHARGEBACK, your carded brain won't be recalled back lol
Now let's break down your unlimited stupidity, not all Vccs get charge backed, the fact you are clueless to figure out how to get a non chargeback Vccs doesn't mean people like me can't.
It is just like foolishly assuming all gift cards get chargebacked, and foolishly thinking all gift cards are carded with a cc, when there are numerous ways to get a non chargeback gift card.
Lemme school you on this old method....someone gets an airline frequent flyer miles from Delta airlines hacked logins which you can convert to store gift cards or someine gets a gift card from a rewards like SunTrust Bank login or a carded affiliates program which gives you gift cards. He figures out a sites, that exchanges gift cards, e.g Amazon gift card for legit iTunes gift card and the iTunes gift card can still be rinsed on another giftcard exchange site for a legit bestbuy gift cards, which can still be rinsed for a legit Amazon gift card which won't be charged back! You think the airline frequent flyer miles will try to trace the gift card from one exchange gift site to another and figure out who rinsed what or how? Lol...there is a reason companies make provision for write-offs or bad debts or bad business (when it's not worth it) ! but as a clueless brainless idiot, I am not surprised you can't figure out such logic.
The ironic thing is that when noobs like you have been exposed as clueless it hurts your ego so bad, you say no it doesn't exist, it's a misnomer bla bla bla
I mean to noobs like you, whatever u are ignorant and clueless about doesn't exist
I was hoping you saw a Brain surgeon about your existing brainless skull when you deceitfully made a "I am paying 1k for these logs" when in reality you wanted to pay a misery $20. ( Omitted that purposely to hoodwink members on your DECEPTIVE deceitful thread headline)...you don't just need a psychiatrist, you need a transgender surgeon specialist and a neurosurgeon cos you wish you had a pussy since without any brain you constantly need to think with your dick HAHAHA
You have an IQ above 20??? Since when?? Never never brainless skulls got any iq
Iq over 20 ? yet you are still this clueless and so ignorant that even when facedwith facts, you still hold on and cherish your cluelessness and ignorance?
And it seems you are entirely short or words, because reading your long senseless rants all I see is you basically repeating the same paragraph....this isn't the longest paragraph contest, where you are foolishly inserting your same flawed dumb sentences....only those who can't keep up with superior argument run round circles with long senseless rants hoping foolishly the other person gets exhausted ...something u have long learnt doesn't​work with me
Your quote above, is another senseless logic that can only come from a confused contradictory clueless kid. Turn it the other way kid....now if the merchant says he can't or doesn't want to go through the stress of getting non chargeback vcc( not the confused mistaken cc/dumps u keep mixing up), then doesn't that also mean the merchant owner has lost the right to impose %? Or when you didn't wanna go through the stress of getting those logs yourself , didn't you still impose that stupid misery $20 peanuts?? Why didn't u decide to loose the privilege of offering your peanuts , you consistent confused contradictory CUNT
Mr cluless idiot, I won't show you "anyone" who "would" give me, instead I will show you "people" who "have" given me 70% and agreed to accept 30% for my non chargeback France carte eblue vcc!
introducing username: fariksoul
Forum link : https://club2crd.cc/member.php?u=14
We did escrow here on this forum, he deposited 70% of the vcc value, months after his merchant is still alive after he cashed out. Reason I didn't deal with him on this USA vcc is because his merchant accepts just EU, no USA
introducing username: Ninjainpygames
https://club2crd.cc/member.php?u=17318
We did escrow here on this forum, he deposited 70% of the vcc value, only problem is that is merchant accepts just Russia cards and since you aren't blind you can see this thread is about USA vcc
Username: collect
He was going to deposit 70% too for the non chargeback, but only contacted me , when I didn't have
Send all of them a pm please
if you were not a lazy idiot who needs to be spoonfed, a simple research on my threads ,feedback and reputation will have given you the answer but as a lazy clueless fool, u need to constantly ask questions which answers are clearly open
U think if they didn't know the difference between non chargeback Vccs and ccs and dumps like your confused head, they would have deposited 70%?
Or should I also list other members of other forums?? Since a brainless idiot like you might foolishly assume only on this forum merchant owners exist lol
Now that your original assertion has been proven to be 100% wrong, flawed and STUPID, and fallen like your unlimited foolishness, what other flawed clueless Logic will you come up with ?
And oh P.S:
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You next lines will be:
(a) Vcc and cc and dumps are the same, I refuse to believe they can't be chargeback (cos you cherish my cluelessness and U put your ignorance in high esteem lol) ( if I had a penny!)
(b) he is a mofo, need to see a psychiatrist bla bla, ( you become insulting and riled whenever your stupidity is exposed and can't stand the fact that even with long paragraphs which you foolishly hope will hide your unlimited stupidity, I still expose them lol)
(c) show escrow threads , I don't believe it ( because you are too stupid and an ignorant cluless talkative not to figure out escrow thread on this forum is only visible to the partners)
(d) I still don't believe you dealt with them ( because your blind eyes is too lazy to figure out that the $2 musd u see on my balance is crumbs from my ESCrow...no surprises, when a faggot like you haven't ever done escrow here)
(e) I give up, vbv_dude always thinks he is right ( giveup should be your first name , middle name and last name, cos u always brag rubbish and fake being tough and then chicken out back in your little cave whenever u get burnt and buried in your own stupidity)

[Otstypnuk]

You usually get long winded with your responses. Something tells me you were only raised by your mama. No daddy in the picture?
You make it too much of a daunting task to read your shit. I opened the thread and I was like dayum, I ain't reading all these, for what? So I can show my dick is bigger? Where is the money in that? I've already made my point logically and solidly.
FYI, I only scanned through it.
Damn it! Ma'm please keep your shit short and on point so we can read it comprehensively next time.
No one likes reading paragraphs of 'showboating' meaningless and unrelated words and sentences.
So duchess of long winded castle, can you try to always make it short please. (It truly is an honest genuine request) Ain't nobody got time for that long speech.
Listen vbv_lady, I can't answer all of your long presidential speech, I'm only gonna take a crack at 2 of your paragraphs, the rest are an eye sore, and meaningless chants of my 'purse' is bigger than yours because I know how to shun out curses.
I hoped you wish yourself goodluck in finding someone seeking those logs you wanted to pay a stupid rubbish peanuts $20 for, obviously u saw such individual in a cave or deep in an African Forest lol, even after deceptively masking it as "I offer 1k
Oh I did find those braintree accounts @$3-5 a piece too in the excess of 500+ pieces.
So that answers that. I'll give you some if you want to satisfy your curiosity.
Some of the guys are here on cardclub. Did you see me updating that thread that I was still looking? NO!
You said:
Lemme school you on this old method....someone gets an airline frequent flyer miles from Delta airlines hacked logins which you can convert to store gift cards or someine gets a gift card from a rewards like SunTrust Bank login or a carded affiliates program which gives you gift cards. He figures out a sites, that exchanges gift cards, e.g Amazon gift card for legit iTunes gift card and the iTunes gift card can still be rinsed on another giftcard exchange site for a legit bestbuy gift cards, which can still be rinsed for a legit Amazon gift card which won't be charged back! You think the airline frequent flyer miles will try to trace the gift card from one exchange gift site to another and figure out who rinsed what or how? Lol
And the answer to this,see my earlier post of:
So if it's that easy to do, by your logic now, if its that easy to setup, why don't you put them things(scans, bank account, fake ID etc) together get approved for a merchant and cash that MOFO out for 100% profit your self?
I bid you adieu and good bye!
Act 10, Scene 10.
The end.
Over and out.
You're more skilled at drama than me, so by all means do carry on Ms. Meryl Streep.

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Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

Damn it! Ma'm please keep your shit short and on point so we can read it comprehensively next time.
No one likes reading paragraphs of 'showboating' meaningless and unrelated words and sentences.
So duchess of long winded castle, can you try to always make it short please. (It truly is an honest genuine request) Ain't nobody got time for that long speech.

Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

Listen vbv_lady, I can't answer all of your long presidential speech, I'm only gonna take a crack at 2 of your paragraphs, the rest are an eye sore, and meaningless chants of my 'purse' is bigger than yours because I know how to shun out curses.

Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

And the answer to this,see my earlier post of:
So if it's that easy to do, by your logic now, if its that easy to setup, why don't you put them things(scans, bank account, fake ID etc) together get approved for a merchant and cash that MOFO out for 100% profit your self?

Originally Posted by THE-SAPPHIRE

I bid you adieu and good bye!
Act 10, Scene 10.
The end.
Over and out.

You are already exhausted and in trauma after realizing I buried you in your own stupidity. Best to be raised by a single mom than to raised by chickens like you were , so no surprises your level of stupidity is amazing...u aren't human, u are just a low life chicken
It is daunting for you to read because you are a lazy brainless idiot who is also too stupid to figure out that my post was long because I was exposing every stupid and flawed senseless words from your previous LONG senseless rants.
And don't lie kid, we both know know you read the full post and you were like "dayum ! vbv-dude just took me to the cleaners by exposing how dull I am, I need an exit strategy, I will just lie that I didn't read it , even though I feel so hurt and my ego bruised "
I am glad you have finally realized this wasn't a long paragraph competition like you dumbly assumed in the past , and your stupid logic and point has since been exposed and thrown out in the trash as not just being cluelessness but can only come from someone who is an ignorant dumb moron
FYI, only u ,I repeat ,only you will be so dumb to believe your own stupid lies, that you just scanned through it....the forum knows fully well that is a blatant lie....even your response just gave you out lol
Can't you see that you are a consistent confused contradictory brainless idiot?? Look at my first post in the thread ...it was short and precise! look at your rants , they were long senseless and entirely stupid. If you had kept your response short without running round circles with your long senseless meaningless rants, my response which exposed every single stupidity in your long rants and exposed what a dumb idiot you were , would have been short.....why is common sense not so common to brainless chickens like you?
And no one likes trolls like you, who spam and cry on other threads with your dumb points and logic , yet get pissed and mad and filled with regrets on pains you caused yourself, ain't nobody got time to console you sissy , miss heartbroken bruised ego cunt ...how is your gender switch going pussy?
Listen SAPPHIRE-THE-CHICKEN, You can't answer them , because I was 100% right and your point and logic was 100% flawed! Was it your flawed stupid logic about confusing non chargeback vcc to normal cc /dumps?? Or was it you hoping no one had accepted 70/30 deal with me in the past, which I showed you proof? The proof that has since shut you up!
Or is it your stupid tactic and dumb strategy of writing long senseless rants hoping foolishly I won't respond? yet getting all mad my further responses make you look very foolish and exposes how stupid you are in the forum ?
You have nothing left CHICKEN, u are left dry ! but need I need to remind you, that you buried yourself and wrapped yourself in your own stupidity ? Lol
[QUOTE=THE-SAPPHIRE;110350]Oh I did find those braintree accounts @$3-5 a piece too in the excess of 500+ pieces.
So that answers that. I'll give you some if you want to satisfy your curiosity.
Some of the guys are here on cardclub. Did you see me updating that thread that I was still looking? NO[!/QUOTE]
Didn't you deceptively and deceitfully put 1k on thread but omitted the stupid peanuts you were offering to attract pm??
First, unlike a stupid stalker like you , I don't care if a brainless chicken like you exists nor if you update threads or spam and troll in threads ....and there are so many reasons why a thread might not be updated, it maybe you don't find it useful anymore or figured out how to get it yourself, but as a brainless unexposed dumb idiot, no surprises you foolishly assume there is just one reason.....oh and didn't you lie that u didn't read the whole post?? Yet this response that was in between my posts was well responded too.
SAPPHIRE-THE-CHICKEN, If you gonna lie idiot, at least use your brains...oh my bad, you don't even have any in that empty skull of yours
And I exposed what a confused contradictory idiot you are by asking you this below
"Your contradictiry confused quote above, but yet u were so senseless to ask yourself, if it was easy for merchant owners to get non charged back vcc ( not the normal cc, dumps, you were so confused about ), why don't the merchant owners get the vcc and keep 100% instead of keeping 70% and giving 30% out, you dumb senseless MORON or perhaps merchant owners run a charity program where they love giving 30% out?
Or if those logs u desperately needed were easy to get and which you were offering that peanut $ 3 why didn't a FOOL like u get them yourself and shove that $3 in your asshole faggot? Or maybe you run a charity program too where u love giving out $2 lol"
Something you read but was so amazed at your own stupidity
Didn't I predict that this jobless senseless troll who spams threads will eventually give up and chicken out by crying back to his little cave??
Who has more drama than a clueless ignorant prick like you who cherishes and holds on to his unlimited stupidity and foolishness but when exposed , cries out and chickens out like a natural dumb brainless idiot who was raised by chickens
Btw, my offer to card a brain into that empty skull of yours still stands, this time I will pay for priority shipping ( same day delivery lol)

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Up........

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u 45% me 55% then buzz me.

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Originally Posted by trackz

u 45% me 55% then buzz me.

If you don't like my % , don't bore me with your rubbish
Either my % or go get your vcc yourself