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Lol...the sounds too easy was a sarcastic comment.... anyhow thanks, I can read between the lines. BTW, my background, back in the day was access card related. Coding, unlooping dss and echo cards..... starcheeze, bell.... etc. I had a hand in private software and card locking/loading....until fta killed everything. I understand the role of the asic on the card, and will say this, barely nothing ever came out of the private sector back then, it was 99% leaked info.... some looped cards were "peeled" back and x-rayed, and looked at through microscope to see the burned "fuse", aka looped cam..... this whole emv thing is a nightmare....