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albanec 05-26-2025 12:09 PM

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Today were diving deep into the murky waters of <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font> - the <font color="#FF4500">bane</font> of every <font color="#FF4500">carders</font> existence and an important tool of every <font color="#00FF00">legitimate</font> consumer who's been screwed over by a <font color="#FF4500">shady</font> merchant.<br/>
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Ever wondered how you could order something, get it verified and then low and behold before it ships it gets <font color="#FF4500">cancelled</font> due to <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font>? Yet how come some cards take a minimum of 2 months to <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font>/dispute a charge? Its like the financial worlds own version of quantum mechanics - seemingly contradictory and often confusing but if you understand it, you can bend reality to your will.<br/>
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Were not just talking about the basic 'customer calls bank, bank reverses charge' bullshit here. No, were going to peel back the layers of this onion and expose the inner workings of the <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font> process. From the moment a dispute is initiated to the final decision, well break down every step and show you how each player in this game - banks, merchants, and payment processors - tries to cover their own ass while potentially screwing over everyone else.<br/>
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But wait, there's more. Were also going to tackle a new beast in the jungle: <font color="#FF8C00">early fraud alerts</font>. Well dissect what these alerts mean for us <font color="#FF4500">carders</font> and how they're reshaping the industry of <font color="#FF4500">carding</font>.<br/>
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So grab a drink, tell your <font color="#00BFFF">Telegram</font> groups you're going dark for a bit, and lets dive into the world of <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font>. By the time were done you'll understand this system better than the dipshits who designed it. And remember that knowledge is power - especially when that knowledge helps you stay one step ahead of the game.<br/>
<blockquote><font color="DimGray"><b><i>Disclaimer: The information provided in this write-up is intended for educational purposes only. It is a study of how fraud operates and is not intended to promote, endorse, or facilitate any illegal activities. I cannot be held liable for any actions taken based on this material. Please use this information responsibly and do not engage in any criminal activities.</i></b></font></blockquote><font color="White"><font size="5"><b>Chargebacks</b></font></font><br/>
You've just pulled off a sweet score, <font color="#FF4500">carding</font> some overpriced shit from an unsuspecting merchant. But before you can pat yourself on the back you need to understand the clusterfuck that's about to unfold behind the scenes. Welcome to the world of <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font>.<br/>
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At its core, a <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font> is just a fancy way of saying 'gimme back my fucking money.' When the real cardholder notices a charge they didn't make (that's you, dipshit) they call their bank and raise hell. This kicks off a process that's as convoluted as it is slow.<br/>
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Here's the basic flow:<ul><li><font color="#FF8C00">Cardholder Dispute</font>: The mark notices the charge and calls their bank. 'I didn't buy this crap!' they scream. <img alt="" border="0" class="inlineimg" src="images/smilies/fuu.png" title="Fuu"/></li>
<li><font color="#FF8C00">Bank Investigation</font>: The bank doesn't just take their word for it. They do some digging, which usually involves reaching out to the merchant.</li>
<li><font color="#FF8C00">Merchant Response</font>: The merchant gets a chance to prove the transaction was legit. Good luck with that, fuckers.</li>
<li><font color="#FF8C00">Bank Decision</font>: After weighing the evidence (or lack thereof), the bank makes a call. More often than not, they side with the cardholder.</li>
<li><font color="#FF8C00">Money Movement</font>: If the chargeback sticks, the funds get yanked from the merchants account.</li>
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<img alt="" border="0" class="bbCodeImage" src="https://i.ibb.co/2744kfyD/image.png"/> <br/>
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<b>Sample from Stripe</b><br/>
Now you might be thinking that it sounds simple enough. But here's the thing: this process can take anywhere from a few days to several months. Yeah you read that right. Months. And that's where things get interesting for us <font color="#FF4500">carders</font>.<br/>
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Some <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font> happen fast while others move slower than someone on <font color="#00BFFF">Xanax</font>. This inconsistency is what keeps our game interesting and profitable.<br/>
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<font color="white"><font size="5"><b>Chargeback Roulette</b></font></font><br/>
<img alt="" border="0" class="bbCodeImage" src="https://i.ibb.co/dwZDzT40/image.png"/> <br/>
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Lets cut the shit and break down why some <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font> happen fast while others are slow:<br/>
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Bank policies play a huge role. Some banks have automated systems that flag suspicious transactions instantly expediting the <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font> process, while others are still using tech that was outdated when dinosaurs roamed the Earth. The type of transaction matters too - big ticket items and purchases from high-risk merchants obviously get flagged faster.<br/>
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Cardholder vigilance is another key factor. Some people check their statements more often than they check their phones, while others might not notice a fraudulent charge for weeks or months. And lets not forget about the merchants - some fight <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font> like their lives depend on it, while others are slow to respond and simply don't give a flying fuck since they know they'll lose the dispute process anyway.<br/>
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<font color="#00BFFF">US</font> cards tend to be more advanced when it comes to fraud detection and <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font>. The financial institutions in the Land of the Free are paranoid as fuck, which means <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font> on <font color="#00BFFF">US</font> cards often hit faster. God bless <font color="#00BFFF">America</font>, amirite? This is not just about technology - its about a whole system geared towards protecting cardholders (and screwing over <font color="#FF4500">carders</font> like us).<br/>
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The amount of the transaction plays a role too. A $5k electronics purchase raises flags quicker than a $20 fast food order. Not only from the perspective of the bank, but also from the cardholders perspective. Someone using their card to buy a <a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#00BFFF">Netflix</font></a> subscription wont get them all too worked up (because it might just be their brother using their card) but a $3,000 purchase of jewelries might give them a heart attack.<br/>
For <font color="#FF4500">carders</font>, understanding these factors is important. Its about knowing how long youve got before shit hits the fan and if the shop you're buying from cancels shipment on already verified purchases or even worse, request shipped goods to be returned back to their warehouse once they get a smell of a <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font>. Remember: some cards give you a long grace period, others will have you scrambling fast.<br/>
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Adapt your strategy based on these factors. Hit the right targets with the right cards at the right time, and you might walk away clean. Fuck it up, and you will find your self unprofitable with tons of 'SHIPMENT RETURNED' notices.<br/>
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<font color="white"><font size="5"><b>Early Dispute Alert Systems</b></font></font><br/>
<img alt="" border="0" class="bbCodeImage" src="https://i.ibb.co/9f9M5YH/chargeblast.gif"/> <br/>
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<font color="#FF8C00">Early Fraud Alerts</font> isn't just a new toy for merchants; it's the real deal when it comes to speeding up <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font> response times and decreasing our profits. We're not just racing against shipping times anymore; we're up against sophisticated tools that give merchants a heads up the moment a dispute or <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font> is initiated (even before the investigation starts).<br/>
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These systems like <a href="https://www.verifi.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#00BFFF">Verifis</font></a> <font color="#00FF00">Rapid Dispute Resolution</font>, <a href="https://www.ethoca.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#00BFFF">Ethoca</font></a> Alerts and <font color="#00BFFF">ChargeBlast</font> are creating a direct pipeline between banks and merchants. When a cardholder so much as sneezes in the direction of a dispute the bank shoots that info through these networks and they rat on the transaction by contacting the merchant. The result? Merchants are getting tipped off within hours, sometimes even minutes. It's like they have a crystal ball and it's bad news for us.<br/>
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For <font color="#FF4500">carders</font> this means our window of opportunity is getting smaller. Merchants aren't just sitting ducks anymore. They can freeze orders or halt shipments before a full <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font> even happens.<br/>
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What does this mean for us? Speed isn't just important anymore; its do or die. Were not just racing against the cardholders vigilance now. Were in a full-on sprint against these alert systems that are itching to prevent our orders from getting in our hands. Its a two-front war and we need to be smarter, faster and more strategic than ever before.<br/>
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We need to think about our approach. Hit during high volume times when these systems are overwhelmed with data. The tsunami of transactions during <font color="#00BFFF">Black Friday</font> or <font color="#00BFFF">Cyber Monday</font> might give us an opportunity to slip through the cracks. And remember, these tools are powerful but not perfect. They still rely on cardholders noticing and reporting unauthorized charges. We can always run a spam campaign on the holder's email and phone number so they have no idea. Our job is to stay one step ahead, find the weak links and exploit them before they catch up. In this new world adaptability is key. We need to constantly change our tactics, stay informed about the latest alert systems and find ways to get around them. It's a cat and mouse game and we need to be the smartest, quickest mice in the maze.<br/>
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<font color="white"><font size="5"><b>Closing Thoughts: Adapt or Die</b></font></font><br/>
The world of <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font> and fraud detection is evolving faster than a virus in a petri dish. As <font color="#FF4500">carders</font> we need to stay ahead of the curve or risk becoming as obsolete.<br/>
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Understanding the intricacies of <font color="#FF4500">chargebacks</font> - from the factors that affect their speed to the new early alert systems - is crucial for our survival. Its not just about knowing how to <font color="#FF4500">card</font> anymore; its about understanding the entire ecosystem were operating in.<br/>
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The tools are getting smarter but so are we. Its time to show what were capable of in this evolving game. Remember that in the world of <font color="#FF4500">carding</font>, knowledge isn't just power - its fucking survival.<br/>
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So stay informed, be ready to change tactics on a dime and never stop learning. The <font color="#FF4500">chargeback</font> game might be getting harder but that just means the rewards for those who master it are even sweeter. Now get out there and show these banks and merchants what real innovation looks like.
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