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ELChapo 01-27-2025 12:02 PM


Have you already heard the latest news? Some guys from the 1984 group are giving us total online privacy. A few days ago, the full release of https://u.is/ ecosystem happened, and it means that all of us can stay safe on the web for absolutely free! It was developing for 6 years by an anonymous group of crypto experts in order to give us full freedom online. It reminds me of how Bitcoin was developed. Even now no one knows the names of people who did it, but it became the most powerful coin in the world!
Who hadn’t heard anything about Utopia yet here’s a slight description:
- encrypted text, voice and email communication
- secure web browser as a Tor alternative
- crypto wallet, cards, and API for merchants to use a built-in e-currency
- mining during the soft is running
- secure storage and the highest level of encryption
- decentralized P2P ecosystem with no central server involved in data transmission or storage
Sounds fresh and exciting, right? I don’t like the fact that it’s a closed source, but I hadn’t seen anything at least similar to it. So I can’t ignore and enjoy the moment.
P.S. No matter beta has ended, users can still receive rewards for promotion and offering useful ideas on soft improvement or finding bugs.

l33tsu 01-27-2025 12:26 PM


Does it work fast? As the soft with such a great number of functions and which is peer to peer can meet some issues. Moreover have you already tried their built-in currency? Is it available outside the soft?

ELChapo 01-27-2025 12:57 PM


It works as any other usual soft, even mining doesn't slow down the PC. What concerns the coin, for now it's available inside the soft only. I think it's because it's quite new now and have to be mined first in order to make it valuable.

loyality 01-27-2025 01:13 PM


Wow, I didn't know that it's still possible to receive a reward. I thought it ended together with beta. Can you show me where is it possible to do? Can't find it on the website.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 01:22 PM


It's mentioned on their https://support.u.is/ website. I think the beta website was transformed to it. It's really nice to know that developers still care about users and soft. I think that only a regular user can tell what has to be improved or added.

l33tsu 01-27-2025 01:35 PM


Okay, but I can't even mine the coin now. Strange, maybe some update is coming. And they have a funny design, like back in 2000 https://txgate.io/images/smilies/smile.gif It's strange as many new apps are doing the nice design first in order to be more attractive to users. Anyway, here everything is quite understandable.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 01:43 PM


I believe it was one of the main points to make it understandable first and then work on its design if needed. But till they have no competitors, I don't think they'll work on it as there's lots of other stuff to do.

loyality 01-27-2025 01:48 PM


Thanks for the link! I'll continue participating in development in order to get more rewards. By the way, did you think how can we earn money with that soft except of mining? Maybe some online shops or exchanges.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 01:54 PM


I believe that now is the best moment to create the business inside the soft as I hadn't seen any links to new websites yet. So if you'll be the first it will be really popular. But I still believe that the best way to earn money there is mining. When the coin will be released and you'll have a lot of it you can get rich.
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loyality 01-27-2025 02:03 PM


I don't really believe in mining now as we don't know whether the coin will be released or it will be used inside the soft only. If second, then it has almost no sense, especially now when there are no services and I have no idea where could I spent it.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 02:10 PM


I'm not really nervous about the coin release, I'm more waiting fora mobile version of the soft as I want to us it as a main messenger and using it on PC only doesn't attract much users from that side.

loyality 01-27-2025 02:16 PM


Most of my friends refused to use the soft as they don't really look for such a total privacy when only inside things can be accessed. So it doesn't matter for me if it's a PC version or mobile one.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 02:18 PM


Your friends may be wrong as almost all the other messengers require a phone number and one wrong step and they will be found. I appreciate the idea of providing no data at all.
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loyality 01-27-2025 02:25 PM


It's good when you don't need to provide your personal info, but don't forget that not 90% of people are doing something illegal. So they're not afraid of being caught and can use whatever they want.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 02:30 PM


It's not about illegal things. I speak about a personal security. The only thought about tracking all my info by 3rd parties makes me mad. I don't want anyone to reach my messages, photos, etc. If I want to share my thoughts with the world - I'll use Instagram and Twitter.

loyality 01-27-2025 02:35 PM


You're also right. But it still needs time to understand whether Utopia will provide all this security. It's good they don't ask for any personal info during the registration, but who knows what happens inside.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 02:40 PM


It works like that with any app if it's developed and released by a new unknown company. Telegram was popular because Durov produced it, for example. But messengers like Dust or Wire were new to public, but became quite popular. It just needs time.

loyality 01-27-2025 02:42 PM


Probably you're right. Everything in our world have to be checked with time. I wonder why there's still no merchants there? Only some channels about Crypton. But what's the point if it still has no value? Do people already use it for something?

ELChapo 01-27-2025 02:44 PM


Probably there's only some black merchants and exchangers that earn money on it. They decided the value themselves and make fools from other users. Anyway, if they give real money for crp, maybe they'll be in a minus after releasehttps://txgate.io/images/smilies/smile.gif

loyality 01-27-2025 02:46 PM


Wait, there is one way to exchange crp to real money already. If I'm not mistaken, you can do that on a website that was used for beta. And the rate is 1 crp for 1 dollar. Seems quite nice, isn't it? I didn't try it myself yet, but I think the developers itself provide this feature.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 02:48 PM


And where can I withdraw these money? Like I can simply pay for some services inside only or I can get it to my btc wallet for example? As 1 crp for 1 dollar is nice, but if I can get it to my credit card, I'll lose all the privacy at once.

loyality 01-27-2025 02:52 PM


No credit cards for sure. As I've understood, it could be used as payment for some services offered inside the soft. Have no idea which ones exactly. Need to do some research. Anyway, that's nice that coin now has some value.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 02:54 PM


At least something. I still hope they'll integrate the exchange system inside also. Like cooperate with some multy currency wallets or will at least provide btc for crp. If it will be possible to exchange it to fiat I'll be really happy.

loyality 01-27-2025 02:55 PM


Cooperating with someone means opening your identity. And as I know, Utopia developers keep their names in secret. So it won't happen. You can hope only for inner exchange to be developed. Nothing else, I think.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 02:56 PM


Probably you're right. By the way, have you heard of the competitions held inside Utopia? You can earn some extra crp for a winning place and sometimes the amounts are really good. I'm waiting for the next activity totake part in.

loyality 01-27-2025 02:58 PM


Where did you find the info? I'm also interested as there are no activity at all. Everyone are mining and keeping silence https://txgate.io/images/smilies/smile.gif Even group chats are not very active. Let's have some fun!

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ELChapo 01-27-2025 03:02 PM


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Where did you find the info? I'm also interested as there are no activity at all. Everyone are mining and keeping silence https://txgate.io/images/smilies/smile.gif Even group chats are not very active. Let's have some fun!

Here's the website https://utopiaecosystem.com/ and as I've understood it's a simple user that tries to analyse everything that's going on in Utopia. In the last message there'a interesting info about the coin. And I fully agree that not releasing coin for so long can lead to its fail one day. Hope that developers understand that.

loyality 01-27-2025 03:03 PM


Thanks for sharing a link. It's an interesting comparison with a common coin and I'm still wondering why do other coins release and Utopia developers still pause it. Quite a lot time had passed and nothing changed till now. Even less popular and less valuable coins are released already. Tired of waiting it.

l33tsu 01-27-2025 03:04 PM


Yes, I completely agree with you. It would also be interesting to read your opinion about the delay in the release of the mobile application, it seems interesting to me too.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 03:06 PM


I don't think it's a delay. It was announced for 2020 without exact date. I'm sure developers wanna fix the desktop version first, and now, especially due to the fact of distance working, nothing will interrupt the guys from developing a mobile version.

l33tsu 01-27-2025 03:08 PM


And what do you think, will the crisis that begins in connection with coronavirus affect the release of the mobile version? For me it seems too real!

ELChapo 01-27-2025 03:10 PM


Programmers and developers can simply work from home. They save time that was lost on the way to office and can fully concentrate on their work. So I really believe it won't affect the work anyhow.

l33tsu 01-27-2025 03:11 PM


yes, you know, that sounds like the truth. although we know little about developers and they can be hired workers who fulfill an order for money.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 03:12 PM


I don't think we have to be nervous about that. As you can see, updates for desktop version regularly appear. And if guys told that they'll release a mobile version this year, I'm sure they'll do that. Anyway, for now, sitting under the quarantine, desktop version is enough. Btw, do u participate in COVID-19 chat? Quite interesting discussions are held there.

Starterflee93 01-27-2025 03:13 PM


Is it secure? Because I can't seen source code as it's propietary so it could be doing things in background. Do you think I should get?

l33tsu 01-27-2025 03:16 PM


Yes, I recently registered there and I can say that I have already joined a couple of chats, and one of them is covid-19 chat. And so much news was published there that they will not publish anywhere else, oddly enough. Probably due to the fact that everything is anonymous, people are not afraid to write the truth.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 03:17 PM


For sure, many are afraid of sharing info in other social media as many govs hide the real situation and such people can be punished for that. And no matter Utopia has a closed code, people believe in it.

l33tsu 01-27-2025 03:19 PM


Okay, how long have you been using this app? Can you share your impressions? what are the pros and cons? I am particularly interested in learning about how user support is developed there.

ELChapo 01-27-2025 03:20 PM


I'm using it from its release, I guess.. Like for 4-5 months. Everything is nice, I only lack video calls there. As it seems like all the messengers providing video calls are not secured, but people continue using it as they have no alternative. Now, during the isolation, it's really needed. Miss my foreign friends so much..(


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