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Statistically in the shop, more than 90% of refund codes are actually 05. If I was to allow refund of 05 code, then how would I differ legitimate 05 from non-legitimate? Some will suggest that cheaters make up only fraction of all users. If that was true, then I would have absolutely refunding 05. Truth is, 05 was allowed early on when shop started. After adding a few bases, it took about a couple of hours and over 500 cards were refunded with 05 from many different users, and the shop was left with some 100 cards. In other words, someone or some groups quickly exploited the refund system. This led to me attempting a different approach; disable checker for those having 3 consecutive 05 decline codes. Well, same story again, either they killed/provoked 2 cards with 05 and left one card legit, then repeat, essentially getting every 2 cards for free, while others less greedy would kill every second card instead from more accounts. Bottom line is, I usually pick 20-25 cards from every new base before pushing them (even though I soon find this necessary since results are always the same) to be checked against Luxchecker. Results always come back at ~90% valid 00 Approved. I don't know, maybe I should include a video proof of these results next to each base for everyone to watch. Another thing is that there is no logic why the vast majority of buyers have a "normal" refund rate below or around 10% while others have a refund rate over 50%. In the end, some less greedy/good carders will use one card for each "hit", while others will furiously use same card to place as many orders as possible, having dozen of browser tabs open and ready to paste card details into, until cards hit 05 or something else that potentially could result in a refund (aggressive carders). Suggesting that not refunding 05 favors the shop is true in one way since it's the only way to realistically meet the market demand, but on the other hand allowing 05 would mean for every 1000 cards I push on the shop, at least over 50% of them would quickly go to 05 refunds, essentially leaving the shop with an avg. profit of maximum 5$/card. If that's what's expected by buyers as a good trade-off, then I might instead consider skipping all the headache and sell bases privately where I'm guaranteed to sell faster and while making a very minimum of 8$/card in avg. and more, depending on the period of the year. Добавлено через 12 минут 44 секунды Absolutely no offense. You are not the only to suggest that there are too less cards in the shop to consider depositing/buying in the shop, so I find this phenomena particularity interesting. There are currently more than 4000 unsold cards in the shop. I'm just interested as to what really make a difference if there would be say 40k vs 4k unsold cards in the shop. Mostly, I have received answers from users who swear to be "big" sharks and would "buy tons of cards" if there were more cards in the shop, while almost all of them in reality are only looking for a few specific and rare bins. Few weeks ago there were less than 2000 unsold cards in the shop. I'm pushing bases in sizes that meet the demand. I have capacity to push much more cards, but this will accelerate over time as more users join and the demand increases. There is no point in having more unsold cards on the shop since that will be met with complaints and tickets about "why have old bases in shop???", which basically translates to wasted cards. I would be glad to push more cards to exceed the demand if someone can justify this as economically favorable. |
i get your point bro but because of some cheater why should i pay for a dead 05 card. you need to understand from my prespective too. last 2 card worked great for me, but before that 2 cards were 05. and i had to pay because someone else tried to cheat you. that's not fair hope you can come up with a better system. |
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You have to keep one thing in mind here. We only allow bases of +90%. And I mean a real VR here. These bases are exceptional. They are exclusive, and not resold. We could increase the price per card by 50% and then allow refunds for all. But would you consider that fair? There will always be a trade-off if you're in it for quality. The problem here is that all buyers are "eating" from the same plate. It only takes a few dishonest customers to jeopardize the outcome and quality of all honest buyers. What I'm trying to say is, there has to be strict rules especially when there's high quality and a high demand, otherwise everybody will be disappointed. This includes buyers, sellers, and us. E.g. There's bins you don't want to be purchased by someone who knows he can abuse the system, that buyer will literally steal it from you, and us. That buyer will leave you frustrated and with lower quality, and us with a lower profit and motivation to keep pushing. We are trying to protect you as a buyer from this. Hence our refund system. |
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if you are very sure of your cards validity checker with 1 min refund after opening the cc and buyer with high rates of refund than deposit should be denied arefund until the that deposit, less refund rates goes up again. I bet you will not see a cheater at your shop anymore. |
FRESH BASE: [JAFAR004] [90+% VALID] 0DAY WEBSHOP SNIFF [MAY-22-2023] [24 hour - no replacements/refunds] |
Excellent cards. Hitting good. Finally a store that reminds me of Joker stash |
brother why you not get back with unicc shop you had but you moved to bahira? huh , you are using same method like you increased unicc you are doing same with bahira. same material type , same ticket replies , everything is same , just your php script is different totally design . and everyone know in jabber that you are part of team of unicc team https://txgate.io/images/smilies/wink.gif |
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Because Bahira is a fair place for everyone we have implemented a pilot model that now allows the refund of 05 codes for Premium accounts and up. We will re-evaluate the results of this test in 2 weeks and make a decision based on that. To see if you are eligible for the "05 Pilot Model" go to "My Account". |
bahira thank you for updating the refund policy i agree bahira is a fair place. and the quality i hope remains the same or get better. Last no least update ds for USA NY MA ME NJ |
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